Olive growers used to swear by Olivarda, otherwise known as mata- mosca or fly killer. Not that there are any olives our way this year, but it is an attractant to the wasps that go after the olive fruit fly.

This happens to be under a tree that is a pain to pick anyway, being near a building. The smart way of doing is it to plant it out in huge areas along or around the margins of olive grove terracing.
And that's all I know about olives 😂
It's going to be weird having literally not one olive on 200 trees after this last year's marathon where the harvest was beyond record breaking and the mills closed weeks later than usual, but still before everything was picked.
#olives #spain #olivegroveeggs #permaculture
That's a bit downbeat. Need some more sugar? :)
Cats are reactionary animals. They " are" until circumstances change, at which point they react accordingly.
I thought humans had an easier time of it, being the apex predator. No single event can really change the status quo, but I didn't think our species was supposed to view everything as part of the status quo and not react to real dangers.
When Brits lost 10% off their pensions with that bond issue a while ago, I saw and heard, Well, what can you do? They shrug, suck up more shit, carry on the same, til the next rinse, repeat.
As a whole we might be the apex predator but there are some who are more apex than others and have worked "us" out. They are going to get away with so much more til enough of us wake up and stop shrugging.
By us, I obviously don't include the average awoken Nostr user!.
If these bitcoin people don't need banks, what else don't they need? asked the incumbents in "power".
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very cool form app.
Wrong button. The banks are sheep in a wolf's clothing. Somehow need to up the education levels so people grasp that BTC is not just savings, but private personal under-your-own-control savings.
I'm setting up a site that is going to (subtly) hammer home the self custody, self sovereign message. It's not about being some sort of shady stick it to the state anon, but coming at it as a normal human being who understands we all have a god given right to not hand over the fruits of our labour, our energy to some wanker in a suit who tells you they know better than you.
They did know better than most of us when it came to investing, because they put the time in to trying to navigate a deliberately arcane rigged system. . But now they cant play that card because the curtain has been pulled back and there is no merit in what they were better versed in.
We just need to get your fiat swapped into Bitcoin and then figure it out from there, with time on our hands and on our own terms. Its not radical is it. Youdont ask a banker for permission to eat your dinner. So it is weird how we accept that the banks have made themselves the arbiter of what we do with the means to buy our dinner Ommmmmm :)
I concur with your observations. Enjoy the honeymoon period when everybody is on board and psyched for the change. Humans are such butterflies though! And then they turn lazy and resentful and try to find shortcuts. Like kids who never grow up. Then we have to have big blow ups to reset, or blow up and start all over again.
Also throw the 80/20 rule into the mix, that is a big factor. The 20 are the consistent ones all he way through, but they cant hold back the 80 when it gets to the latter stages.
Money is definitely a good rod. Seen good 'uns who lost their way learn the hard way when their income is stymied as a result of getting caught out or deciding they know better and tried things their way.
Need to have some sort of way to let the errants back in, on good behaviour.
Scythes or #Stihl weed whackers?
Scythe for me
#asknostr #pollerama #growstr
i noticed a hughe difference in tree/plant strength/health deoending on nursery. some really sell sad plants. We only plant a couple of nursery bought trees which will be used to take grafts from, and these are being spoiled or they die.
From seed is key is our experience.
So the other trees and perennials are all planted from seed, and after 2 summers we see what survived and keep planting.
depending on your region carrasca may be quercus ilex, which is one of my favorite oaks, they are incredibly strong. But here an animal is specialized at finding the acorns and stealing them. Kermes oak quercus coccifera is also a nice oak, similar to ilex but stays mostly bushy, have seen some trees of 10m/32ft. Heavy fruiters sometimes 2/year
Am trying to establish some pinus piñonero, the one with the big pine nuts. The regional pine tree is pinus halapensis which is one of the more flammable species so of course the gov planted then out... go figure. I want them all gone as they are sort of a non-agricultural mono-crop. Also heavily infested with mistletoe and many dying or dead adding to the fuel. Just as their needles do.
Almond and apricot are incredibly good at surviving as seedling. An almond will be makijg a tap root of around 30cm/11" deep for a month before showing its first leaf, incredible!
Pommegranate (had no luck yet), quince, some date palms, pear, carob, nettle tree, mulberry, are all on the list and do work once they sprout from seed.
again, nursery trees are our "houseplants" planted in zone1 and get taken care of. Though had some luck with our own nursery seedlings but the time and effort and water is just too much.
Also there is a permies.com thread about reforestation on large scale. I have seen this work in abandoned almond fields and gives hope. Thats why I seed many almonds. They all help breaking through the heavy concreted dirt and add biomass. https://permies.com/t/14353/Reforestation-Growing-trees-arid-barren
Besides this: broadbean survives, alfalfa survives and is a perennial.
#permaculture #forest #reforestation #farming #regeneration
Very cool. You speak Latin! I'm not too hot on remembering names in any language.
Great project,as you say, Govt do one thing, you have to put it right. I'm not one for townie v rural and it really baffles me about Spain, because most people are still pretty clued up about the Campo. I'm sure the forestry policies are not the best reflection of what Spanish on the ground are advising.
Dont know where that came from haha.
Almonds are kind of "weedy" trees to my mind. They do grow well and it's super food, but I gravitate to olive and oak, which last and last. It's my star sign I think. We plant trees we will never see mature!
Anyway, you sound pretty well clued up and on a good direction.
I'm trying to work out where you are. Mentions of pine I'm thinking Andalucia, especially as you mention no joy with chestnuts which are a northern Spain tree. But it could be anywhere. It doesn't really matter, it's all good here. :)
Used to go there on holiday and my folks retired to mid Wales and my brother is not far from Snowdonia. Til I went to the Himalayas I hadnt seen a better landscape when the sun shines
First stage of dream catcher day with my daughter.

I've made the frame out of olive wood, and contributed a couple of chicken feathers. We might be able to find an eagle feather too. She is a real artist and I have no doubt will make it all look rather nice.
It is our little contribution to a fantastic nativity scene, believe it or not. A very politically incorrect interpretation of a universal message. Been 7 years in the making, I reckon it is going to make international news, it is that good.
As an idea, this is the dream catcher for Chief Joseph! Imagine how big he is, and there's life-size camels... It's amazing.
#artstr #spain #olive #christmas
Last year I counted 40 "new" trees on the property that had nothing to do with me. Olive, almond carrasca, pine.. I'm looking at what I spent on purchased starts like cherry, it really is a dismal hit rate and learnt in first season not to buy anything from nurseries.
I'd consider year old starts, but my overriding observation is to start from seed, the most practical, least costly. Just need patience, but it looks like from seed, a sapling will soon enough overtake a 3-5 year old nursery bought sapling and be very robust.. What's your experience on that front?
I've got a couple of Queensland bottle trees to take from seed, same requirement as olive, and in third year its looking positive,, but I can't get a pear that cost me €15 to produce for love nor money growing in a groasis box, another option that promised much but same issue, if it isnt started in the right spot a new tree aint working even if water is not an issue.
Keep going, I guess.
It is surprising how poorly so many bitcoin podcasts age. I know things move fast, but really.
As you say, follow ups would be a step in the right direction. Maybe there's room for just one more podcast. Bitcoin Follow Ups!! All the old news revisited. Whatever happened to...
Have you heard of https://farmos.org/ ? It is a website which helps you document and manage your farm. Been using it a couole of years and have been super happy with it! #farm #open-source
I hadn't heard of it, but reading through the instructions a sense of calm descended upon me! What mix of land/crops/animals do you have to juggle?
Yep. :) None of this is rocket science! So much environmental degradation could be reversed by simply getting out the way and leaving stuff alone. Or just letting the pigs out the factories and letting them loose on the land.
AOVE
EVOO
Our industrial food society has a knack for over-egging at one extreme, or squeezing the joy and poetry out of tradition at the other
First pressing of freshly harvested olives, or Extra Virgin Olive Oil ad ee now call it, is one example.
EVOO which started life known sinply as Olive Oil was once pressed at room temperature using stones and maybe water or donkey power. Now we call that "Extra Virgin olive Oil", because with progress, what producers now call "olive oil" is the lesser grade second pressing.
But it's worse than that. Cold pressed Extra Virgin olive oil can be pressed at up to 60C " room temperature".
So how to differentiate the purest form of oil from the one reinventing the boundaries of purity? I guess we are down to marketing and pretty pictures.
Except plain and simple olive oil the old way, liquid gold, super nutritious oil with as many taste subtleties as a fine wine, s now called EVOO in certain circles. In Spanish that is AOVE, celebrated by top chefs, lauding oil done the proper way as something special.
So now the purest oil is hidden behind the equivalent of WC , desemanticised.
The EVOO in supermarkets is for sure not cold pressed from this year and likely is pressed at the legally stipulated 60c max for "cold" and is 2- 3 years in a stainless tank waiting for the right price
And that known as "olive oil" in supermarkets, who knows what it is. For sure it is second pressing and has been cut with sunflower oil or whatever is going cheap. Is it a better bet than than straight rocket fuel seed oil? I'd hope so, but olive oil as our not so distant ancestors knew? Not a chance.
So that's what little producer people like me are up against. Extra Virgin Olive Oil should not be hidden behind acronyms, not sidelined by mass produced lesser grade versions, and must prevail for international health reasons, for cultural and societal reasons, and for environmental reasons.
Small scale producers can't make ends meet without perverse incentive subsidies. That's why developing a mobile chicken farm amongst the olives is so important to me. To prove that there is a way to generate regular cash flow from an "unprofitable" olive grove, while negating the need for subsidies which require farmers to plough up the land and make it look tidy.
Some things shouldn't be condensed, rushed, commoditized out of existence.
Something like that :)
#foodstr #olives #oil #aceitedeoliva
Ghost turns all headings into a class which you can link to easily for precise anchor text linking in a document. So disappointing to realise so few websites use this system. Missing a huge trick.
some good info in this freedom tech community https://satellite.earth/n/FreedomTech/npub1fkluklzamwpyn7w8awxzrcqe7z8mldlvthk4gz9kz3vsh6udz62s9qj48l
Is it fair to say that if the internet ran on Tor, it would make privacy a lot easier for everyone?
I never saw this explanation before of the time Proton "shopped" a French activist. Proton legally had no choice, as a law had been broken, but they said if the activist had used Tor, Proton could not have helped the police in their enquiries.
Apparently Proton could have also suggested all users access their accounts via a VPN to cut out Proton's access to any usable IP info, but I guess as a VPN provider they thought it politically incorrect to say that publicly at the time!! https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/09/privacy-focused-protonmail-provided-a-users-ip-address-to-authorities/