code, monkey, code!

yeah they only owe their only equity, so no big deal. so long as others value it, they are golden, but the problem is how long that will last …

haven’t been paying too much attention to who was saying it but I will now.

it’s one of these things you don’t really pick up on or pay attention to in the moment, and what you end up noticing isn’t so much what is being said but the fact it’s being said a lot.

I’ve started hearing “nostr is just a shiny toy that is distracting devs” more and more, and honestly think that’s just really, really dumb.

I don’t see the difference between saying this now and saying that lightning was distracting devs in 2017.

lightning needs bitcoin and makes it more valuable via demand pull. nostr needs lightning and makes it more valuable via demand pull. ergo (by the transitive property of “needs” and “makes more valuable”) nostr needs bitcoin and makes it more valuable. this is building in layers. this is the antithesis of crypto’s “world computer” bullshit. like, seriously, what more do you want?

not to mention that the more people who come to bitcoin, the more developer hours you end up creating.

I have absolutely zero on-the-ground info on this, but I strongly suspect that for every core contributor who first got involved in 2019 or later, lightning was a huge part of what motivated them, *even if* their actual output since then has had nothing to do with lightning directly.

open to being convinced this is all completely misguided btw. as mentioned earlier I have a lot of time today to argue …

all you need to know, bro

https://allenfarrington.medium.com/gauge-theory-does-not-fix-this-625f98de3246

I get the goal, I’m just wary of this tactic. it seems like a cop-out of addressing the real issue by distracting them with something that is coincidentally also true but pretty much completely besides the point.

it’s like calling bitcoin a decentralised clock. it’s fun to play around with the idea if you are already totally onboard, but if that’s your opening gambit to convince a noob, you’re gonna end up in completely pointless discussions about what the total addressable market for clocks is.

dude, Gigi tricked me into learning what all this shit means and I wish none of this ever happened.

I think you’ll find the Lagrangian of this discussion didn’t change AT ALL, thank you very much.

I’m amazed you have time in between all your valiant work on clubhouse.

did you scroll down google images results for “gauge theory” until you found one sufficiently intimidating?

so you’re saying he’s using incredible core strength to pull the hill back and forth?

likely

Onion! 🧅

also, just to get really feisty, breakfast is a scam. I am a proud two-meal maximalist. brunch and dinner, none of this “breakfast” and “lunch” bullshit like I’m a factory worker and I can only eat outside my shift on the line.

cereal is fiat food. eat a steak and some broccoli.

typical gauge theorist. sigh.

no, it’s too late, we are full on arguing now.

that’s hilarious because actually I don’t think it’s been solved and I’m gonna use this line in the future. thanks 😊

what about the hill he’s standing on?