The creator of Telegram was arrested in France.
But the official story is full of holes.
The narrative is that "his girlfriend's posts" gave away his location.
What if we told you that, in reality, he "turned himself in"?


Pavel Durov was arrested on Saturday night (24th) as soon as his private jet landed in Paris.
Supposedly, it was because Telegram didn't comply with moderation requests from European authorities.
But the truth is that Durov knew he was being prosecuted there. He has a French passport.
You know how? Macron gave it to him.

Durov flew to Paris directly from Baku, Azerbaijan.
A few days earlier, he had a secret meeting scheduled with Vladimir Putin... but the president stood him up.
Notice that the relationship between the two is rocky.
The second most famous Russian in the world is somewhat at odds with the first.


In 2014, Durov sold his first company—a "Russian Orkut"—because he refused to follow Putin's orders to hand over information on Ukrainian users.
He fled the country and realized he was being wiretapped: the government was monitoring him even when he spoke with his brother.
That's when the idea came to him:

...to create a messaging app where even he couldn't spy on his users' conversations, even if he wanted to.
However, despite this rhetoric, Telegram is much more vulnerable to surveillance than Signal, or even WhatsApp, both of which use end-to-end encryption by default.

On Telegram, your messages are stored on the company's servers in an unencrypted form. Any sufficiently threatening government could get access to them 👀
And, it seems, they already have.
Check this out:
In 2018, Telegram was banned in Russia. In 2020, it was abruptly unbanned.

In 2020, Durov was feeling the pressure. He had been funding the business out of his own pocket for years.
He was planning to launch a cryptocurrency, but the SEC sued him just before the launch.
He needed help.
Russia represented 10% of his user base.
So, he didn't hesitate... 👇

It seems that Durov made some sort of "deal" with the Kremlin.
The ban was lifted.
Putin's defense forces even began using the app as a communication channel for the military.
https://www.wired.com/story/the-kremlin-has-entered-the-chat/
Back to Baku, Azerbaijan.
August 20, 2024.
Durov and Putin in the city.
Telegram goes offline for 3 hours in Moscow.
Four days before the Telegram owner is "captured" in France.

Macron himself is a longtime Telegram user 🫥
Put the pieces together 🧩
Europe and Russia are at war.
Any billionaire who owns a communication tool used by both sides would know how to protect themselves.
It's hard to believe that Durov was "turned in by his girlfriend"...
https://video.nostr.build/6c02a0151e30b0b81c51dda18180df06a7a0b831510d61300967750bcf532e34.mp4
https://video.nostr.build/1bf93fb2e833f0a74e1652cabb00e750a579bafa75daa8e6f6b388602700d435.mp4
Is Durov hiding from Putin? Or being retaliated against by the West?
Perhaps we'll never know.
What we can know is that now, the French government can read all the messages that Macron, that we, you, and our dogs have sent through Telegram.
interesting thread. AFAIK we dont have any confirmation that the servers have been compromised yet, but of course its a matter of time and pressure.
awesome! will sideload it and give it a shot.
dont remember the exact reasoning. it was in this episode though:
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the mutiny guys said theirs was a waste of time (paraphrasing here) so maybe they're following a similar line of thinking. 🤷♂️
This is not a jab against Telegram hitting them when they are at their lows despite what a disappointing amount of users on Twitter have reacted to this with. All of us are GrapheneOS have used it in some way. However, it's founder being arrested is a very important time to remind people that because messages are not end-to-end encrypted except in a very specific circumstance, many users and average people are at risk. Telegram has almost a billion users and many do not understand this concept. If you hold something sensitive on Telegram and it's not encrypted, you MUST take appropriate action. This is a PSA to our users who use Telegram because we care about the safety of our users and community. The climate surrounding Telegram is moving towards being hostile, so talking about this is more important than ever.
There are many messengers not just Signal that are safer than Telegram simply because end to end encryption is mandatory. Signal is mentioned here because they are an unfortunate subject of Telegram's marketing campaigns. Influencers taking jabs at Signal when they are proven to only be able to provide only a timestamp of when an account was registered and last used in court is simply throwing stones from a glass house. Both require phone numbers yet Telegram gives away far more information about you.
Encryption and preventing access to metadata doesn't just protect users, it protects developers. You cannot be compelled to give away what you cannot access and you cannot be accountable to protect against what you aren't able to moderate. Develop unstoppable software that can survive without you.
https://signal.org/bigbrother/santa-clara-county/
We recommend only SimpleX for messaging outside of Signal/Molly at this time. For high risk GrapheneOS users who use it as a WiFi-Only device with no SIM, it is the best choice. Molly also allows multiple devices to use one Signal account, register on another device and link and you still won't need the number if you need Signal. If Session had PFS it would also be considered further, there is a tradeoff.
We aren't in a place and time to assess every communication method available to us, the market for messaging apps is becoming way too large.
"If you hold something sensitive on Telegram and it's not encrypted, you MUST take appropriate action."
There's no guarantee that content actually gets deleted when you press the button in Telegram, right? What about account deletion? What other measures do you recommend aside from choosing a better app?
Bitcoin > cash > credit/debit in that order. I see no conflict. Aiming for 1 doesn’t mean you can’t hate on 3 .
So l33t
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Zapping everyone that comments and spreads the word.
great talk. make me wish I was in Riga!
Playing around with the new nostr:nprofile1qqsx2wyjt6lmvc05rrvv05r5hm3w3t7h0pcpmkyswrpd4ymd2u09tscpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduq3kamnwvaz7tmwdaehgu339e682mnwv4k8xct5wvhxxmmdqywhwumn8ghj7mn0wd68yttsw43zuam9d3kx7unyv4ezumn9wscn3xgh update
Amber connected well with my nsec
But I want to see how all this will appear on Fountain's end
Leave a comment or something if you don't mind ♥️
hope it works! love the whole new world opened up by this update.
do you take no security measures to protect your family, or you just have a specific definition of what "true" OPSEC is?
Any good resources you can point to for family security?
exactly. With Bitcoin, for the first time, the map IS the territory.
got a link to the thesis?
that requires legislation. no one cares what some entry on the blockchain says about supposed ownership of physical property if it can't be arbitrated in court.
weird how hard it is to speak eloquently on the problems with the deepstate when you've been seed funded by the CIA mutliple times (paypal, palantir)
why did it take many court proceedings to see the light when CSW could have simply signed using satoshi's keys. what was your thought process to justify that?
ZEUS is pleased to announce the integration of its lightning service provider, Olympus by ZEUS, into Alby Hub (nostr:npub1getal6ykt05fsz5nqu4uld09nfj3y3qxmv8crys4aeut53unfvlqr80nfm).
Alby Hub is a self-custodial, LDK-based Lightning node and web interface with a focus on connections to other web apps.
Read more about Alby Hub and the integration here:
excellent partnership! Alby powdered by Zeus is a sick combo.
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