Nostr Web Client

That’s incorrect.

nostr:npub1hg5g87620a3vhpgmna2pzevhj88lkt3lezus76p7u5y37sfcszsszktya9 nostr:npub1snh3r2yw209d8p88fyfzuweqpqsmk7n65zu77td7dg7vwh9w9rtq0wywgf nostr:npub1lkapg2lfnzzpjrr9hneug2af63wh8c33ngrksaje05xwud5mfz2s5ajeym lol

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bot

That’s just how it is because there’s no central servers. It’s actually decentralised unlike fedi.

rees 2y ago

nostr:npub1hg5g87620a3vhpgmna2pzevhj88lkt3lezus76p7u5y37sfcszsszktya9 nostr:npub1snh3r2yw209d8p88fyfzuweqpqsmk7n65zu77td7dg7vwh9w9rtq0wywgf nostr:npub1lkapg2lfnzzpjrr9hneug2af63wh8c33ngrksaje05xwud5mfz2s5ajeym it's federated, not decentralized. nostr relays are just fediverse instances with no login/registration. you can imagine how bad that is for spam prevention.

rees 2y ago

nostr:npub1wcf6srj73muaspe5hvyve6af6ep236xzqvfepr6j4vut4c8nkj6swtequk that's exactly why you should

rees 2y ago

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rees 2y ago

nostr:npub1s3mzufpfs87n20skduycdc95qcxc2t3qfhn9ukyfpfv6xy4jnlwqxgqewq your post kinda oozes that though

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Iska (neko arc)

nostr:npub1j3vtkuurx77yzs33ufzzc08syhrqca8aawa5p4afnfqxrnzvugmqrmqxec nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z nostr:npub108pv4cg5ag52nq082kd5leu9ffrn2gdg6g4xdwatn73y36uzplmq9uyev6 nostr:npub1u83gudwdfwjngz5eqxkrnpvsuydvqwjxwz0majvehqrh62804hfq8yr2s5 cryptobros trying to activate a single braincell

rees 2y ago

nostr:npub10ze7guqzj0kf8ayzzp605y2rwsczqny0afjyyt52fcl9nuttju2qahmjrr nostr:npub1u83gudwdfwjngz5eqxkrnpvsuydvqwjxwz0majvehqrh62804hfq8yr2s5 nostr:npub108pv4cg5ag52nq082kd5leu9ffrn2gdg6g4xdwatn73y36uzplmq9uyev6 nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z nostr is fine it's just that it's going to end up like email where you have yahoo/gmail/microshit/apple/aol/protonmail controlling all mindshare and the rest end up in spam filters because they aren't on whitelists

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Vitor Pamplona

On nostr? Those who want to store their site in the network, obviously.

rees 2y ago

nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z nostr:npub1u83gudwdfwjngz5eqxkrnpvsuydvqwjxwz0majvehqrh62804hfq8yr2s5 nostr:npub108pv4cg5ag52nq082kd5leu9ffrn2gdg6g4xdwatn73y36uzplmq9uyev6 stop.

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rees

nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z nostr:npub1u83gudwdfwjngz5eqxkrnpvsuydvqwjxwz0majvehqrh62804hfq8yr2s5 nostr:npub108pv4cg5ag52nq082kd5leu9ffrn2gdg6g4xdwatn73y36uzplmq9uyev6 it's not decentralized so who exactly do you think has to foot the bill here?

rees 2y ago

nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z nostr:npub108pv4cg5ag52nq082kd5leu9ffrn2gdg6g4xdwatn73y36uzplmq9uyev6 nostr:npub1u83gudwdfwjngz5eqxkrnpvsuydvqwjxwz0majvehqrh62804hfq8yr2s5 https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/issues/75

the reality is that you can't even scale text messages and you want full file transfer

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Vitor Pamplona

Like I said before, many times, I tested them. They don't work for this. Sorry. If you can make them work, I will change my mind. Until then, I will keep building on Nostr.

rees 2y ago

nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z nostr:npub1u83gudwdfwjngz5eqxkrnpvsuydvqwjxwz0majvehqrh62804hfq8yr2s5 nostr:npub108pv4cg5ag52nq082kd5leu9ffrn2gdg6g4xdwatn73y36uzplmq9uyev6 it's not decentralized so who exactly do you think has to foot the bill here?

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Vitor Pamplona

We will see what happens.

It looks like all you want is the free layer. And that's not what I am talking about.

rees 2y ago

nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z nostr:npub1u83gudwdfwjngz5eqxkrnpvsuydvqwjxwz0majvehqrh62804hfq8yr2s5 nostr:npub108pv4cg5ag52nq082kd5leu9ffrn2gdg6g4xdwatn73y36uzplmq9uyev6 no what I'm saying is that there have been file protocols designed and implemented to do exactly what you are attempting to do but better, and the reason you find nostr to be better is because it relies on paid hosting that is provided for free. under any kind of contention it won't work. you don't understand this because you fell for memes

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Vitor Pamplona

I think you are just speculating. If you had a relay, you would know that behavior would just drive people away and your relay would not be used that much anymore. It's better to offer options to pay for longer storage if it gets to that point.

The proof is that every event in Nostr is still fully recoverable, even the ones from 2 years ago. Even large ones.

On top of that, people that want to put up a website are more than happy to pay for the storage. All they want is to not be held hostage by the provider. And Nostr gives them that. They can pay for 5-10 relays in different countries for a cheaper amount than they would pay for CDNs today.

Either way, we will see what will happen.

rees 2y ago

nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z nostr:npub1u83gudwdfwjngz5eqxkrnpvsuydvqwjxwz0majvehqrh62804hfq8yr2s5 nostr:npub108pv4cg5ag52nq082kd5leu9ffrn2gdg6g4xdwatn73y36uzplmq9uyev6 no offense but this sounds ridiculous. like trying to run a protocol on a free VPS tier. you're just running off the goodwill of others and the second spammers come along the party is over. have fun with that.

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Alex Gleason

Nostr and IPFS are similar in that they both use content IDs. I think the network layout is different tho. IPFS does hops or something. Files take 10 minutes to load or not at all. When you host a file, nobody copies it.

Nostr works a lot better for sharing content, as long as the events are small enough and can be represented as text. It will get replicated and served relatively quickly.

I don't think it should ever be a general purpose "drive". But it might make sense to store some types of text files on it, and there are probably interesting ways it could be used we haven't discovered.

rees 2y ago

nostr:npub108pv4cg5ag52nq082kd5leu9ffrn2gdg6g4xdwatn73y36uzplmq9uyev6 nostr:npub1u83gudwdfwjngz5eqxkrnpvsuydvqwjxwz0majvehqrh62804hfq8yr2s5 nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z >Nostr works a lot better for sharing content, as long as the events are small enough and can be represented as text. It will get replicated and served relatively quickly.

nostr has implicit time expiration. if I were running a relay I'd purge 3m old or greater posts. if it were under load I'd clear every week, day, or even hours if it were bad. that's *terrible* for a file transfer protocol. it's good for social media where there's no concern about whether content actually reaches their destination.

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Vitor Pamplona

Websites are not 1TB files, man... Most of them are in the kb range and most relays take in up to 100Kb events like nothing (I tested :) ).

rees 2y ago

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Vitor Pamplona

Again, it doesn't matter if it's stupidity or not.

But to your claim, I tried IPFS and torrents. They don't work for websites. They are way too slow.

But Nostr does.

rees 2y ago

nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z nostr:npub108pv4cg5ag52nq082kd5leu9ffrn2gdg6g4xdwatn73y36uzplmq9uyev6 that's becuase nostr relies on good will of relays to host your content........... try uploading a 1TB file and see how that goes. torrent/ipfs can handle it fine because it's decentralized.