Has it ever not been 2023 in nostr?

Just put together a (probably longer) summary here: https://gist.github.com/staab/f8284af12450dbbdcead6e0c3ed95e2c

TL;DR it double-wraps messages and leaves the inner one unsigned which increases metadata hiding. It also avoids key sharing (although key sharing could be added on top of it if desired).

I'm perpetually saddened he deleted his instagram account

Because of the increased interest in encrypted chat recently, I decided to put together a survey of different proposals with a summary of their common ideas. The goal is to allow us to 1. decouple different use cases from another, but keep a shared core that devs can build on, 2. get us all behind one proposal, and 3. pack everything into that proposal that is needed for good UX and privacy.

Please take a look and leave comments/corrections, and tag anyone else working on an implementation.

https://gist.github.com/staab/f8284af12450dbbdcead6e0c3ed95e2c

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Yes, I wanted heterogenous lists that could be used for custom feeds. I said this in the review process, but it didn't make it into the spec so I just shoved people into "bookmarks".

Have you looked at vitor's nip 24? Very similar, but I think better executed. I put together a PoC of it here: https://inbox.coracle.social.

I'm also working on a comparison of all private messaging nips so that maybe we can all get on the same page and row together.

Coracle only publishes 30001 lists currently, this could be the issue

I hadn't seen that, I was thinking about a way to augment vitor's nip along the same lines. It's a good idea, but maybe could be improved by generalizing to a session key, which can represent one or more parties in a private chat (for scaling purposes) and which can be periodically invalidated or expire to limit the scope of key leakage.

Definitely, I'm way out of my depth but it finally seems like it's happening, with the help of some cryptographers.

That is the one we've been working on, and is much more secure. I want to experiment with adding ratchets to it this week.

Yeah, this is not a good solution. I think that bounty is incentivising more bad/partial solutions.

Are we finally doing bloom filters? Where can I learn more?

Niiip thirty twoooo

Coracle does

Exactly what I thought at first glance too

Sounds like a great idea, not sure if its my forte, or whether I have time. Is there an existing project you're hoping to build on?

What's involved? Adding nostr to fedimint or vice versa?

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When my wife is out of town I always watch Arnold Schwarzenegger/Bruce Willis/Sylvester Stallone movies with my boys, as my father did before me.

Today was a really good day. Coded so hard my eyes started hurting.