I think there's also a perspective worth evaluating whereby trying to explain unknown stuff, we over-complicate in the process.

In that regard, if we want to keep it as simple as possible, the explanation/comparison of Bitcoin to the Dollar and sats to the cents (or whichever fiat currency they are familiar with), is in that context an extremely easy one for a new user to grasp because it conjoins the familiar with the unknown.

And maybe, that's all we really need.

It just needs to be clear when a user is onboarded (Note, I don't think we need to SHOW the fiat value, just convey the comparison).

Also worth noting as Bitcoin's value rises, sats may also be less and less attainable - And I think that's where your thinking comes in of keeping to a singular name which is understandable - Keep it simple, whilst allowing expansion.

I think it'll be a wait and see game, because sats really did gain a lot of traction with the introduction of Lightning, and rightly so.

And personally I think all this will come very very naturally - Up until relatively recently, the bitcoin unit was very attainable by the average person. In the present, not so much, and yet we're seeing more and more adoption - A string being pulled in seemingly opposite directions. It'll work out in the end.

Just because there isn't a standard UTF-8 symbol (yet) doesn't mean ₿ is the correct answer either.

₿ is widely known to refer to Bitcoin, not sats.

You're, at this point in time, more prone to find someone that knows the symbol depicted below to mean sats, than ₿ - That's the current reality, that's how things evolved, for better or worse.

I think it's one of those "pick your battles" situations - Given how entrenched it is at this point, it's worth really asking yourself what has more worth - Fighting against this particular current, or putting energy into things that improve the current UX landscape.

Well-known sats symbol, as used in Snort.social:

https://metadata.nostr.com is such a great go-to to broadcast your NIP-65 relay list (even though all clients should do this), but one thing it is sorely lacking is a DM relay list...

Maybe we should have a "Rate My Client Choice" thing going around... 👀

Maaaaan, I miss the homeland sometimes.

Enjoy!

I think what you might have seen was a CORS issue(nginx misconfig), but resolved that now even though can sometimes take a couple tries 😅

Thanks, appreciated either way 👍

LFG!! 🔥

I've enjoyed testing this out so far, huge, huge potential!

It's become my main client when on Desktop/Web, and hope Communities/Space BOOM over time.

Great stuff nostr:npub1jlrs53pkdfjnts29kveljul2sm0actt6n8dxrrzqcersttvcuv3qdjynqn

Awesome 🔥 Congratz to the team.

Is 2.0 still using legacy NIP-04 DMs, or does it support NIP-44 encryption?

Here we go....

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HUGE.

Less and less excuses to not custody your own Lightning sats (I'll say at this point really no excuse).

FREE Lightning address for a self-custody lightning wallet - ALL ON YOUR PHONE.

#ZeusLN #Lightning #SelfCustody

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Not publicly just yet. Playing around with a few things still.

Is the end-goal to allow users to add their own know? If so, happy to wait for that.

Great news!

Looking forward to being able to add my own nip-29 relay.

Thanks!

The 1984 Police State, another self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Great work on Chachi so far.

However, I think I'm being super blind - I can't seem to create a group and/or add a relay?

I only see 0xchat and fiatjaf nip-29 groups for some reason....

Also, any plans for Bunker nsec login? Having to install extensions isn't great.

I suggest using nsec.app's Bunker URL for login.

Flotilla is having some issues with apps like Amber currently.

nsec.app seems to work.

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Or other have said, stupidly easy to self-host nowadays. No excuse.

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Self-custodial.

Easy channel management, and inbound channels are currently cheap.

The LN address does take a cut, but at least it's self-custodial.

Custodial solutions are increasingly expensive, in more ways than just one.

This Bitcoin pump we've seen so far this month?

That's the transaction done by institutions with smaller amounts when testing a new wallet.

Coinbase hasn't gone down, and it's not in the top 10 for appstores.

Retail hasn't started buying in again out of sheer anxiety.

Institutions are merely signalling interest, even though many of them are now full in.

You probably haven't even heard from your ex yet.

Brace yourselves.

Last I tested I was able to receive but not send (just using NIP-65, so relay selection is the same across my several clients).

Next time I'm able to login(trying daily) I'll test and let you know.