"There is no such thing as a person who is immune to rationalization or pressure. I’m certainly not. Anyone who believes that they will never be tempted is a danger to themselves and the people who rely on them. A belief you can never be tempted or coerced is like a belief that you can never be conned — it makes you more of a mark, not less." - Cory Doctorow
Yes I agree, It's the view of the masses, but also the majority opinion of the developers that make up the ecosystem (from my pov).
I believe that Jay and the Bluesky team mean it honestly, but it's impossible for them to resist the community pressure and this "enshittification".
Cory Doctorow diagnosed this a long time ago: https://doctorow.medium.com/https-pluralistic-net-2024-11-02-ulysses-pact-tie-yourself-to-a-federated-mast-b2f89bb5b4d8
I see it as natural and inevitable. Every truly open and unregulated market is initially abused by bad actors before the ecosystem ossifies, creates self-regulatory mechanisms, and people understand the nuances.
Being in Ethereum early on and having to navigate my way around all the scams and grifters gave me pretty good intuition for spotting red flags, I think
"prioritizing community safety" is peak decentralization theater. gatekeeping infrastructure while cosplaying as freedom tech.
Their position, broken down into consequences, is that culturally neutral infrastructure is the wrong approach. That we inherently support racists when we have neutral web hosts or email providers, that the right approach is ideology-based because it prioritizes "community safety".
It seems a bit like the Core vs Knots case to me. One side wants to have nodes as neutral as possible and the other side want to bring unnecessary ideological baggage into it.
> "I think the only way to truly separate infrastructure from ideology is if the infrastructure (i.e. relays) have no view of what they are relaying."
I completely agree, that *guarantees* neutrality. However, the entire internet and its neutrality today are not based on guarantees, but on culture. I expected AT Protocol to understand this, but they have turned it 180° and are making this cultural neutrality a threat.
Thank you for the welcome :) I hope you'll forgive me for my shitposting about bitcoin sometimes ;)
The comparison to a restaurant is not entirely accurate, atproto PDS is more of a general-purpose infrastructure. It's complicated
The last thing I want to do is order someone what to do with their servers. I'm an anarcho-capitalist (anarcho-convivialist)
There’s a debate raging over in the Bluesky world about whether or not infrastructure providers on ATprotocol should be neutral carriers or if people running things like PDS servers should be able to choose who they host.
It’s an interesting read and worth thinking about. From a Nostr perspective it’s like arguing for a custodial system then being upset at the power dynamics that exist because of that.
I’m curious what folks think. I think the poster kicked a hornets nest, not understanding how communities of users react to being told what they should or shouldn’t do with their own servers.
Thoughts?
https://gist.github.com/burningtree/d4aa172470293bdf2939c993cf48bbd4
Thanks Rabble!
I kicked that nest little on purpose. I was on atproto very early, among the first 40k people - and I chose atproto over Nostr because I thought it was a technology with greater scaling potential (not perfect, but which can bring freedom to more people). I saw atproto as the opposite approach to nostr, but converging to a very similar destination point.
But the mood of the last few months clearly anticipated how wrong I was, that it had become just a decentralization theater. My assumption that the community would move towards decentralization was completely wrong and naive.
The rage that has now finally confirmed my suspicions and given me the strength to leave and build something more meaningful. So i'm here :)
Terrible :(
The problem of today's world is identity weaponization.
You mean the Bitcoin Inquisition? :D
Starting January 1, 2026, the Europeandisunion will charge €3 on all packages coming from outside the European disunion.
In the worst case scenario, a product that used to cost you €1 will now cost €4.
This type of trade is very important in countries that have suffered from Argentinization, such as Spain, because many of its inhabitants can barely make ends meet.
The next step will be to charge for the air you breathe.
I still think Bitcoin has been a failure, since it has not been used for what it was meant to be used for and what it was created for, namely to create black markets and avoid tax theft.
Therefore, the only viable option is to clone Adolf Hitler and win World War III.
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_25_3045
Only viable option is to clone Hitler? What kind of doublethink is this?
I didn't know this is a parody account
Please, recommend me some cool Nostr people who talk about :
Javascript/Typescript, Rust, cannabis growing, 3d printing, movies (Lanthimos style)
"Neither revolution nor reformation can ultimately change a society, rather you must tell a new powerful tale, one so persuasive that it sweeps away the old myths and becomes the preferred story, one so inclusive that it gathers all the bits of our past and our present into a coherent whole, one that even shines some light into the future so that we can take the next step… If you want to change a society, then you have to tell an alternative story." - Ivan Illich
I think this is standard practice for Amazon. If you don't add a credit card and use a gift card, they just block your account.
Fuck the government
But I'm really glad I live in one of the four European countries that disagree with this nonsense. The battle over chat control is not over (!!!)
Zen is very cool feature-wise, but running on Firefox which is incredible slow