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Mark Camper
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Bitcoin Pleb & Econ larper. Paying bills with Product & UX. Love for the tough mountain climbs and manual labor. Currently enrolled in a Blue collar bootcamp. CZ/EN
Replying to Avatar HoloKat

Kat’s 2 sats:

I’m well aware of the nostr principles and various considerations a developer might make before integrating something that has potential to get rugged.

I’m also considerate of user desires and how they might fit into the overall product vision.

There are always trade offs with any decision. Do we make users happy? Or do we adhere to principles of rug-proofing?

I think it helps to look at the bigger picture and try to imagine what is more likely to happen - your brand new protocol dying because users were unhappy with the overall experience, or potentially having a part of your client not work if the centralized API is rugged.

Personally, I see former as a greater threat when considering that the features that might be rugged are not really core to the overall app experience. I’d much rather make users happy (and even charge them for it), then worry about media disappearing. Our words are the ultimate speech. We can continue communicating with words, even if media is gone.

For this reason, I see un-ruggable media is a nice to have, but not critical to success. If media dies, you still have time to replace it with another solution, but if the word dies, that’s it, most of your users will disappear (except the super hardcore ones who will wait for it to come back up).

The cool thing about nostr is that we have all these different clients who can do as they please and choose the path that works best for them and their own principles. We can’t really force anyone to do anything. Shouting at devs is defiantly not the way to get anything done. Ok to keep bringing it up, and even better if an issue is encouraged with some sats. I know that works because I have done it myself several times now. Those sats are not much, doesn’t really cover any real expense for developer, but it’s proof of work and very good signal.

As for “build it better yourself”, this is not a viable path. We already have very limited number of developers here, truth is that we can’t build it better ourselves. We all have different roles to play, all critical to success, but different. I would encourage developers to pay attention to user feedback, especially if it’s the same feedback over and over from multiple passionate and hardcore users - they are your signal and a good indicator if something is going right or wrong.

Anyway, love you all! 💜 Let there be peace!

Well said 💯

Asi jo. Confirmo jsem zatim nikdy v akci nevidel, ale asi staci dostatecne.

Pro ten Groupon by to mohlo byt i financne zajimavejsi pro shareholders. Automaticka akceptace btc u milionu zakazniku by z nich mohlo automaticky udelat meme stock.

Sice strasne fiat reseni, ale investori by na to asi slyseli. Narozdil od ostatnich memes, by se tam dali najit zajimavy synergie a produktovy reseni.

Pokud do toho Cupr jde, tak si nedovoli to UX ani PR odflaknout ✅

Muze z toho byt hodne zajimava case study (a PR) i daleko za hranicemi CZ.

Navic pak CZ bude mit pokryti moznosti BTC plateb na ~50% ecommerce obratu? To snad bude na zapade #1. 👁️‍🗨️👁️‍🗨️

Pokud se to povede, tak bych se divil kdyby do toho nepraskl i Senkypl s Grouponem a dalsi. Hlavne pokud by byl i bull market.

CZ e-commerce threatening Bezos 👌🍻

Replying to Avatar Matt Carvalho

I just set up my nostr:npub1tftc33ttam85wraffce62cgtvvjrmttquqlv6a0agtfm5nl4vues82xar5 Vault, and the user experience was incredibly smooth! 🔐

Using Bitcoin-only hardware wallets like the nostr:npub1jg552aulj07skd6e7y2hu0vl5g8nl5jvfw8jhn6jpjk0vjd0waksvl6n8n Jade makes multisig so much easier.

You don't even need to install companion apps like Trezor Suite or Ledger Live.

It looks like a solid UX with good security.

Got any experience with Casa/Unchained to compare with?

I have no hands on experience, but Unchained's 2-of-3 looks similar, maybe just harder to access/use co-signing. So more positioned as a stone cold storage than a bank. Casa seems similar, although the variety of setups described on their site makes it quite complex to understand how the cosigning actually works.

The metaphor of the "Late Soviet America" is so vivid by now.

Most Eastern Europe has better quality of life than most of the US.

Bitcoin is its last hope to avoid a total ruin in the cities.

You would need the loans to be collateralized by some stronger promise than the house itself.

A secured promise of future cashflow of your family/company at higher than the real market rate.

Mortgages for sure would become less ubiquitous.

When I used to visit new cities, I always googled for "best hipster things/places to do in XYZ", and hoped to find some local bloggers reports.

Never particularly fond of hipsters, but it helped to curate the search good enough towards a young traveler/nomad types.

Satlantis vision was instantly clear to me. Replace these search hacks with actually personalized, trusted, and up to date recommendations.

I'm avoiding all the cities and opting out for nature these days, so I'm curious if the concept will carry out in the future for outdoors enthusiasts as well (camping spots, MTB hubs, Colorado 14ers, etc). Nostr has a lot of potential to better organize the web and make all public infos much better searchable, and more useful.

Keep up the momentum 🔥

Germany and CZ are pretty strong contenders for #1 out of the West. ie out of the countries where it's still not a necessity for survival.

Otherwise, Nigeria and others alike have probably much more wode spread actual usage.

Check out the original Parallel Polis concept. A network of local nodes in diverse aspects of life and civic society routing around the state/censorship/regulations.

I've been looking for a while for a good contemporary overview, and finally found a pretty solid one here:

https://www.themoralimagination.com/p/ep-49-flagg-taylor-phd-the-parallel-066

Maybe just add to it little more explicit localism focus. It's kinda just implicit in the original concept.

Sure, that's the MVP. But little more async app with leaderboards would be great.

Maybe next time.