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There are basically three camps, as I understand it, who all agree this is impossible.

1. Gil Kalai and friends who buy QM but says there is "correlated-noise" that will limit scale even with perfect engineering

2. Roger Penrose and friends who don't buy QM as it stands but have another model and would say there is "self-decoherence" because of gravity and such

3. The aristotelian/common sense camp (which I agree with) that says that quantum weirdness is a total misunderstanding because materialists are looking at the world upside down

Whoever has the right model, there are more people than you might think who agree it's obviously not physically possible. That doesn't mean we dont think the eimnginers are good enough. It means it is not possible because reality has rules and those rules called physics make it fundamentally totally impossible.

I think from a non-insane point of view, as things get bigger you end up with a normal universe and not a quantum weird universe. Have you ever violated the principle of non-contradiction in real life? Have you ever known a cat that was both alive and dead?

Whatever the details are, the result is the same. If you are a "Believe the Science" type, rather than a common sense person, I suggest Gil Kalai. They've been running these experiments for a long time and never proven his math or his point wrong this whole time. I am pretty sure a lot of the researchers secretly think he is probably right by now, but what are they going to do?

I don't want to burn any coins either, though I have not looked hard enough at The Cat yet to decide if I think it is valid to kill the spam and dust. I do not agree with supporting non-menetary abuses of the network. So maybe that makes sense but I I'm not taking a hard position right now and I'm not focused on that and haven't dug in enough.

What I do care about is that doing anything about QC right now is objectively very destructive to Bitcoin and freedom tech in general. ECC is our best weapon and we shouldn't give it up based on an an unfalsifiable and unoroven belief that QC is even possible, much less eminent.

If they crack a key with shor we will have plenty of time to deal with it before it becomes and economically viable threat. Which will never happen anyway. So let's shut this FUD attack down for now. There are a lot of bad incentives for promoting this scare and it is all bullshit.

I tend to agree with your conclusion. Talking about and generating new ideas is fine, but until seriously threatened, making any changes now or bip’s without thoughtful application of NIST-tested methods, etc., it’s primarily an academic exercise and shouldn’t be anywhere near bitcoin code.

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Entropy? 128 and 256-bit.

Transcribing? No dice.

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It was a good read, thanks again. The overarching point referenced about how concealed carry is separate and distinct from open carry in the 2A, and concealed carry can be regulated by states as “…absolutely necessary to counteract a vicious state of society…and to prevent…assassinations committed upon an unsuspecting persons.” I see as wrong, and falls back on the test of regulation of rights by future judges and societal benefits.

“Manly defense” of open carry is true, but so is the defensive value of concealed carry and not knowing if the person next to you is armed with the leveler or not.

But I am glad for McDaniels.

Received a great suggestion from a customer for educational purposes—make every first of 11 bits brass to see how each word on the key is established.

Makes a nice spiral pattern, too.

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Replying to Avatar La Crypta

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Tricksy bitcoins!

Seems like a good time to repost this, particularly as no one knows what the price will be on any given date.

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