https://youtu.be/KV_7yBmkEqs?si=mnbFCk66IncvQx8O

Claims about what? I’m lost

I’ve been replying and trying my best to reply to all the absolutely stupid unfounded accusations of the lSlSraeIi propaganda, as they so easily debunked and dumb. But…

I seriously think that they know it’s ridiculous, but just like the ‘Nigerian prince’ scams, it’s not meant to fools intelligent people, or even normal people, it’s just to fool enough idiots and zealots who just hate Muslims to get more numbers. All you need is an army of idiots and islamphobic zealots to outnumber the intelligent people who are vocal. Once you get the numbers, it doesn’t matter about truth anymore.

So I think I’ll calm down now, as those who have sense will see the lies, and those who want to see the lies as truth then that’s a decision they made way before they saw any fake evidence.

Wow…new levels is desperation…now raping dead bodies!!! Hahahaha

This just shows how much they REALLY need a win somewhere.

https://x.com/avivaklompas/status/1732112344396742913?s=46&t=AeUubJVXjsWeffPXQIjUGA

A testimony of a testimony of a child about the intensions behind an event we have no evidence even occurred!! Right…

According to Islamic law,

1) a Testimony of a testimony is not accepted as definitive evidence of the truthfulness of that second testimony

2) Testimony of a child also dubious

3) lsraeIi gov have not listed this event or death from happening, ie it’s a testimony of an event we have no evidence it happened, no victim at all

4) Her body language, especially her description of pointless minutiae, indicates a lie

5) If this child witness exists, name him.

https://x.com/mylordbebo/status/1732181844018274397?s=46&t=AeUubJVXjsWeffPXQIjUGA

Before you try to answer any question, get all the facts. Norman fincklstine. Watch that vid. It will clear up a LOT 😘

One last point forgot to mention which actually is the most important one 😂

No, Hamas and no Muslim, wants to kill all Jews. This is either a mistranslation, misunderstanding or outright lie.

Most likely what was said was to remove the Jews in power from Palestine, the occupied lands, but it does not include a ‘holocaust like’ death cult. This is so opposed to Islam that it would be tantamount to a form of disbelief in Islam itself. Allah says in the Quraan

لَّا یَنۡهَىٰكُمُ ٱللَّهُ عَنِ ٱلَّذِینَ لَمۡ یُقَـٰتِلُوكُمۡ فِی ٱلدِّینِ وَلَمۡ یُخۡرِجُوكُم مِّن دِیَـٰرِكُمۡ أَن تَبَرُّوهُمۡ وَتُقۡسِطُوۤا۟ إِلَیۡهِمۡۚ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ یُحِبُّ ٱلۡمُقۡسِطِینَ﴿ ٨ ﴾

and He does not forbid you to deal kindly and justly with anyone who has not fought you for your faith or driven you out of your homes: God loves the just.

Al-Mumtaḥanah, Ayah 8

إِنَّمَا یَنۡهَىٰكُمُ ٱللَّهُ عَنِ ٱلَّذِینَ قَـٰتَلُوكُمۡ فِی ٱلدِّینِ وَأَخۡرَجُوكُم مِّن دِیَـٰرِكُمۡ وَظَـٰهَرُوا۟ عَلَىٰۤ إِخۡرَاجِكُمۡ أَن تَوَلَّوۡهُمۡۚ وَمَن یَتَوَلَّهُمۡ فَأُو۟لَـٰۤىِٕكَ هُمُ ٱلظَّـٰلِمُونَ﴿ ٩ ﴾

But God forbids you to take as allies those who have fought against you for your faith, driven you out of your homes, and helped others to drive you out: any of you who take them as allies will truly be wrongdoers.

Al-Mumtaḥanah, Ayah 9

So as you can see, non-oppressive Jews are protected and left alone. Our grief is only with those who oppress Muslims; kill us and kick us out of our homes.

Hamas could never have such stupid beliefs, and no Muslim in the history of Islam has ever had that type of beliefs.

I think you’re a reasonable man, and given the information I trust you will come to a conclusion that is more reflective of the facts. I genuinely suggest, sincerely from my heart, that you just watch the video I shared above with Norman Fincklstine, a Jewish scholar in this field. He’s not a Muslim or Hamas so hopefully that would eliminate the suspicion of bias. Watch that; and let me know how you feel after.

To address in brief,

1) Regarding the lies about mass rape, that’s received an Uber push just over the last few days, total lies, as can be seen here. They even used picture from wars in Kurdistan as evidence of Hamas. Lies

https://youtu.be/pMqRK5LpGy4?feature=shared

2) The babies, also lies, debunked here also here and plenty of other places

https://youtu.be/jUA74ws4NPs?si=d_fQQz0-E1nX90SC

3) The human shields has also been debunked for over a decade now, with no independent organisation every been able to verify that, while all alone independent orgs have proven that Israel has been using human shields for decades now. If you want evidence for this just ask, but I think Norman addresses this

4) They prevent people leaving Gaza, not true, and again, where is the Independent evidence for this?

5) Killing non-combatant men and women, like I said, there were a lot of people who died as a result of the military operation. But there is strong evidence that they weren’t intentional if it occurred. But remember, these places were fortified military locations, even if there were civilians living there. And a civilian who picks up a weapon is now a combatant under international law by the way. Again, if you want evidence for this I can get it. But here is the evidence that the Israelis killed their own people on the 7th

https://x.com/ecomarxi/status/1732022607791145273?s=46&t=AeUubJVXjsWeffPXQIjUGA

And: https://x.com/propandco/status/1732134983806914940?s=46&t=AeUubJVXjsWeffPXQIjUGA

I sincerely request you give Norman a go. He explains it better than me, being a scholar in this.

Now you’re being dogmatic 😂

Why does the world have to operate under your legal ideology? There are multiple ways in which a nation can rightly operate that does happen to be a carbon copy of the west.

Installed it onto my iPhone and all my accounts I had before were all gone…

Why?! 😢

Also, I loved my custom colours of red and black, how do I get those back?

I put the YouTube link in the note above. Here it is again:

https://youtu.be/esli-uLlN2A?si=uiwDfFjBiU_-jyWA

Ok, so before even addressing these points, the fundamental question is, if these points were misinformation, deliberately via propaganda or accidental via misunderstanding, if they weren’t true, how would that change your view of this conflict? Because if it changes nothing, then it’s a pointless to the discussion by even mentioning it.

I would say, the chicken came first because its existence isn’t connected to another existence, whereas the egg needs the hen to keep it warm until it hatches.

Here is the link on YouTube but I think Saifudeen may have other platforms he uses

https://youtu.be/bvcIhaA95cA?si=nJyiB4T7uMpvAQ92

I have other videos on this topic here on my channel

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtRogBGF3LT3EF2wYWg6_fzxVHK7hTCZ8&si=yZ-odAhiWaM5cMPh

Check out this delivery by the Jewish scholar Norman Fincklstine about Gaza. He does a good job explaining the facts. Not spin or propaganda

https://youtu.be/esli-uLlN2A?si=uiwDfFjBiU_-jyWA

By the way, let’s not forget, they aren’t a band of guys with guns, they are a legitimate government that won an election set up by the US government in a fair election. The US government even said at the time that it was the most fair election that has taken place in the region. Governments conduct military operations when necessary (or even when it’s not necessary).

They are fighting an occupation. Thats a statement of fact. I hope they do so in accordance to Islamic laws of engagement which protects innocent civilians etc. Whether they do that, who knows for sure. But from the evidence I’ve seen, they do. Will they continue to do that? I don’t know have they always done that? I don’t know. I only really learnt anything about them since 7th October, like most people, and I’ve seen a long list of things they were accused of that turned out to be blatant Israeli lies. Egregious despicable lies.

If there’s something specifically about them you think is bad, let me know and I’ll comment on that specifically. But based on what I know and what I said above, their situation is simple and is no different to any government that fights occupation.

And that’s by design. There is a known sense of ‘fear’ to say ‘ANYTHING’ remotely wrong to get the label of ‘antisemitism’. This has manifested itself to people always self censoring even the most innocent of sentences. And not they are pushing that being ‘anti-Israeli’ or even ‘anti-Israeli politics’ equals ‘anti-Semitic’. This is nonsense and a weapon against criticism.

Hating someone for things they cannot change (their colour, height etc) is dumb, but hating someone for their evil actions and/or beliefs then that’s why you would hate someone. And it’s also fair, because they have a choice to be evil or not. If someone doesn’t want the world to hate them, don’t kill and murder innocent women and children. It’s not hard math 😘

But who denies any of that by the way? Have you ever seen any human being Palestinian or not deny a Jew from property they acquired legally and fairly? It’s almost like a straw man to mention it. Islam has very strict property rights laws and that would have and has always protected the rights of a Jew and everyone else to buy and own property. The irony is, it’s this exact thing we both agree on that the Israeli gov is breaking and has been breaking for almost a century now.

And I would also say that statement “I support Jews in their search for safety” I find it extremely distasteful. Safety is a right given to all, not just Jews. When phrased in such a way it gives the impression that their safety is somehow more important than others. So I would say, for all of those who wave this phrase in the air to them take the Jews into your own lands and give them the safety you say you want them to have; and don’t take other people’s land and rights to achieve that goal.

https://youtu.be/RvQmoPjH4dA?si=NazyRKSbFuVRMYwh

We go round in circles while ignoring the facts.

Are the Palestinians occupied? Because that seems to be an objective fact to everyone but the occupiers.

https://youtu.be/ph9XF39yjgU?si=9wderx_K-FqbLEXK