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Martin
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I'm on Nostr and Bluesky... use both daily. I can say with confidence that at least from the quality of messages and the general vibrancy and nood, Nostr is far, far, far better. Nostr will win and be the sole contender for a truly uncensorable decentralized social network.

On the other hand, two cops beating on a dude who is just standing there is one of the main reasons why we need to build something like Nostr.

It's as if the algo wants people to get hyped up for Nostr development.

So what you are saying is, we have zero security and privacy with you guys when we buy a silent.link esim, is that correct?

I assume its more because of the 30% tax on mining electricity in the US. But then again, it might just be the full moon. Who knows... who cares.

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Hello! Thanks for the great question. I won't pretend that I have all the answers but I'll do my best.

I see cyberspace as a tool just like your texting app or lightning wallet; it is a communication medium with certain properties. People can leverage this tool however they like, whether it is for interaction, finding an audience, commerce, donations, finding ideas, sharing ideas, building more tools, etc. I do not know how people will use it, just like we don't know (or can't fully predict) how people will use nostr or lightning or even bitcoin.

Take bitcoin for example. Nobody knew that lightning would eventually be built on top of it and allow for so many more things to be done. Lightning isn't even just micropayments. It allows for new kinds of apps, identity management, communication, etc. Cyberspace could be to nostr what lightning is to bitcoin: a new development on top of a solid decentralized protocol that enables new uses.

I don't think it's healthy or desirable to create something that makes people want to wear a VR headset for the rest of their lives. That's not the goal. Realistically, I see people using ONOSENDAI like they use a web browser. For a few minutes or a few hours. Find something quick or browse for a while. Whatever makes sense for their use case. What really matters is that they are getting something of value out of it.

Cyberspace is a new way of allocating digital 3D space to decentralized entities. I don't know how people will or won't use it, but that doesn't really matter to me. If we create useful tools, people will find ways to use them, and cyberspace will become whatever it needs to become.

I think the important innovation here is that we now have a decentralized way of allocating a finite amount of digital space in a permissionless way. The space is 2^85 cubed, which is massive, but it is finite.

Looking at things from a new point of view can change how we think and give us new ideas. It helps us innovate. Cyberspace is a new point of view for nostr, and nostr is the new decentralized communication protocol of the web. Even if people never ultimately find a use for cyberspace beyond novelty, I will be happy that at least we gave it a go and helped people see things in a new way. But I have this feeling deep down that nostr protocol's strengths are so massive and important that humans do not yet understand or appreciate them fully, and the same can be said for bitcoin. If you build something like cyberspace on top of something so powerful, who can predict what happens next?

Nice and clear. I'm curious, why did you chose 2^85?

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NEW NOSTR CLIENT ANNOUNCEMENT:

ONOSENDAI オノセンダイ

a cyberspace client for the one true metaverse: nostr

🌌 https://onosendai.tech 🌌 (hint: in alpha. desktop/android works best right now)

ONOSENDAI visualizes objects on the nostr protocol in an interactive 3D world referred to as 'cyberspace'.

⚡ Semantic Coordinate System (✅)

Each nostr note (kind 1) is assigned a 3D point in cyberspace based on the _meaning_ of its content using a 256-bit simhash. This unbiased algorithm maps all notes to a 3D universe you can explore.

⚡ Proof of Work for Localization of Constructs (wip🛠️)

Placing 3D objects in Cyberspace is a self-evident necessity. Kind 10333 notes may be published with content set to a common 3D format to create public 3D visualizations. Proof of work can be utilized to mine the event ID hash which determines the coordinate location. Proof of work is the only way to claim cyberspace real estate.

⚡ Presence (wip🛠️)

Ephemeral events could be used to *optionally* share your current position in cyberspace so that other users can visualize your movement and interact with you.

💡 Rationale

Cyberspace (in this context) is an early-internet trope from the 80s. It's an enthusiastic and naive speculation on the future of network-connected computers and how humans might use them. Ultimately, instead of interacting in 3D virtual spaces, humans ended up interacting via documents in web browsers which is much more practical and efficient than 3D visualizations.

Besides the problem of visualizing content, there are several more critical problems with the concept of cyberspace that are rarely (if ever) addressed in fiction:

- Who hosts it?

- Who decides how it looks?

- Who owns the content?

- Who makes the rules?

- Who assigns the space?

- Who controls it?

These questions are answered satisfactorily in the era of bitcoin and nostr:

- Who hosts it? nostr relays

- Who decides how it looks? nostr clients like ONOSENDAI

- Who owns the content? users cryptographically own their content

- Who makes the rules? open source consensus

- Who assigns the space? an impartial algorithm + proof of work

- Who controls it? 🖕NOBODY🖕

In my opinion, it is only in the context of bitcoin and nostr that something like cyberspace could make sense. Without the decentralized properties of nostr and bitcoin, cyberspace is just another 3D game owned by a company. However, when cyberspace is decentralized, enforces property rights, responds to proof of work, and enables instant value transfer, it becomes something entirely different.

Because cyberspace inherits all of these unique properties from nostr and because value transfer can be executed in cyberspace through bitcoin lightning, I argue that it is time for humanity to take another look at this dusty old concept and start exploring it with renewed interest.

I, unlike many metaverse enthusiasts, have a strong moral preference for reality over illusion. The idealized metaverse or cyberspace worlds that Meta and the like want to build are nothing more than a drug used to extract resources from miserable VR-goggled souls. That is the fiat version of cyberspace and it sucks. I am not interested in building clever simulations that seek to replace reality. I want to build tools that enable people to connect and be more productive. I want to open up new channels for communication, innovation, and human flourishing in reality.

Cyberspace is a new way to visualize the new paradigm for digital communication and property. It is wholly based around cryptography and digital ownership. If not for these things, cyberspace would be irrelevant.

A cyberspace built on decentralized protocols and sound money — nostr and bitcoin — has the potential to be something innovative, healthy, and ultimately productive for humanity. Cyberspace can be something where wealth is not extracted but rather generated by work and free markets. Cyberspace could be a new medium of connection built on sound principles that can enable humanity to do new things not previously dreamed of.

If it were not for the profound inventions of bitcoin and nostr, these aspirations would be nothing but ludicrous and delusional. In fact, any metaverse or cyberspace built outside of the context of bitcoin and nostr are delusional at best and Machiavellian at worst. Spoiler: it's the latter in most cases. But we have the opportunity to build something better. We have the winning hand. Let's make it happen.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk. Let's build. Read lots more and contribute at https://github.com/arkin0x/ONOSENDAI

Made with love posthaste,

arkinox

PS - I'd rather have reposts than zaps! Tell your friends! Thank you! 💜

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This sounds great. So now I'm asking myself: How can Cyberspace like envisioned here help us do things better in the real world? What does it allow us to do that we can't already do?

Bluesky as 2000+ users now. Is there any way to know how many Nostr and/or Damus users there are?

I've been using Feedly for a decade and I don't have any complaints.

#[0] is "Delete Post" a feature that is on the roadmap for Damus? Also, is there a roadmap posted somewhere?

I'd say it will fuel it even more. First, you focus in making great content which will earn you actual money, so you make even more great content, and then when you have a huge following, you earn extra money from putting product placements into your great content.

Bow you just have to find the sweet spot where the product placement earns you more than the lost zaps from people who are pissed by the product placement (which should be trivial, most people don't give a shit).

So now, zaps actually enable wannabe influencers to bootstrap their "venture" since they can now earn a little money right from the start, before they even got really big.

I mean... given how many people make a living off being an "influencer" it does seem like follower count is a pretty important metric for many people.

But I agree. It should not matter. Engagement numbers with the content that is created should be enough for "influencers" to negotiate their rates.