I also do not believe you can quantify the probabilities. But this leaves my original question: what decoherence is solved? If it is not possible to even describe the state then what is the use?
When I say quantum state, I am referring to what a quantum state is in general physics literature. In the case of “n” qubits that would be a norm 1 vector in the space $\bigotimes_{k=1}^n\mathbb{C}^2$ or if you prefer, a density matrix in the space of operators on said space.
Well, I’m working on the paper to finalize all of it.
https://mempool.space/address/bc1q4valmh0puzugzky4dryhflnaayt4tjtcm7jfgr
I just randomly picked a UTXO in a recent block. Here is a “quantum state”. You can see exactly which particles (UTXOs) where here at the that specific block in time, how much energy/satoshis associated and you see the path and history of all entangled UTXOs leading up to that specific state and all UTXOs following that specific state.
Ok, will be interesting to see!
Interesting perspective with lightning channels, but something in the past affecting something in the future does not mean entanglement.
Are you able to provide a proof instead of just words? I do not see how a mined block violates a bell inequality, again do you have a proof?
It is not easy to show whether an arbitrary quantum state is entangled or not, but if you could describe a protocol for generating a bell state using two UTXOs that would be very interesting. If you can not generate a certain state, what decoherence is solved? You have no quantum-information on the state, so there is no quantum information to be lost.
Anyways, I am signing of social media till next saturday. Thanks for taking time to respond.
At least we agree that bitcoin cannot be used for quantum computation.
That satoshi’s coins moving would affect bitcoin does not show any form of entanglement. If I kick a football, it moves but not because I am entangled to the ball. Can you give an example of how one could violate a bell inequality with UTXO’s? Can you give an example of how to construct two entangled UTXO’s where measuring decreases your knowledge of the second?
I did not claim any decoherence. I asked what you meant by decoherence being “solved”? Specifically I would like to know what state is being kept from decohering. And if this state is not known, what is the point then?
I am curious, would just like to know if you have something more concrete to say
To do various computations in quantum computing you need to know the actual state of your system or there is nothing useful you can do. You can have a qubit that is 50/50 or whatever p/(1-p).
Please describe how you would do any sort of quantum computation here. How do you entangle UTXO’s?
What do mean that decoherence is “solved”? If you do not even know the state of a qubit, what are you “solving”. If you mean that it does not decohere AFTER being recorded in the chain, then it is useless anyways! The entropy of said transaction is now 0 because it cannot be changed.
Now please describe how you would prepare a specific quantum state. Just do an easy single qubits state that is 50% chance 0 and 50% chance 1. Then do a GHZ state after. I am curious if you are onto something or just bullshitting? To me it sounds like the 2nd
So how would you compute with a utxo before/after it is spent. What about entanglement? It is such a misunderstanding that superposition is what makes quantum special (or difficult). Superposition happens classically all the time. Go look at light through a prism or waves in the ocean…
On the other hand, the absence of understanding what money is “abstractly” might be what prevents people from understanding Bitcoin as they believe money can be whatever you want instead of what best satisfies a set of criteria.
Before Shannon connected electric circuits and Boolean algebra, engineers were in the dark when building circuits. After Shannon, abstract rules helped build concrete circuits. After Satoshi, bitcoins rules helps storing and transmitting value 🤟🔥
Or maybe the “growth” of the stock market is the best proxy for the true monetary expansion? 🧐



