I think this conversation dovetails nicely into the situation with transgender women. As "women" in their minds, they see sex like women do, and they think a man could be attracted to them. But a straight man can't, not if he knows she's a biological male. I don't know why, I can only report on the facts. Something about being a straight man is far more absolute than anyone could ever imagine, it is not like how women (including transwomen) or gay men can be bisexual or something. We can't. It would probably be easier if we could be, but we can't.

So effeminate men can either grow up gay or transition into a transwomen. Neither case gives them any real prospect for finding a life partner. Because the effiminate man is not attractive to gay men (who are attracted to masculinity, not femininity) and this strange absolutism of straight men means that as a transwoman they can't land a straight man. They are damned if they do, damned if they don't.

I love candy bars. You know what would be better than having a candy bar? Having 2 candy bars!

I have a hard time believing women don't also see the beauty of women. Men aren't physically attractive in the way women are, no matter how perfect they maintain their bodies. Male attraction fundamentally is due to fertility. A woman that expresses infertility is seen as the equivelant as a man in terms of desirability. Its when women decide money and security is more important than self indulgent fetishes and perversion they decide to get married to a man and have children.

Me as a man...

I enjoy watching only man♥️woman , boy♥️girl only

Ok. As a man, I not only think it’s gay for two women to be sexually intimate, but I would also enjoy watching them.

I was offered $10,000 back in the 90s to have sex with a gay guy. I actually chose the price because I thought I could hire a shrink for that who could help me forget it happened through hypnosis or something. But once he actually had the money I backed out. Yuck. Couldn't do it.

I suppose if I was a prisoner of war and the ony way to escape was to have gay sex with a guard, maybe I would do it just to stay alive. But it is so revolting it is hard to imagine I would want to stay alive after that.

I’m strictly man woman

Personally I get nothing out of 2 women together…

I think women are sexy and like to optimise how sexy they want to feel…

Long story short not into the party style 2 girls or the lesbian thing…. If I can’t play one on one I’m not interested

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Yeah, I’m not clear what you’re asking?

Inbred? Having sexual urges about another person of the same sex is the definition of gay. Straight men don't have any such urges. I'm not trying to deny such urges, I literally never had any. Except this one time, a latino guy with moused up wet-look curly hair and bronze skin and a very soft voice came to clean my house. Other than that, never.

What’s up?

If by "we" you mean women, I can't disagree with that.

I’m not sure. I would definitely need to do some research first before making an informed decision.

I think if it makes you happy, then you are gay.

I cant watch porn anymore, the women are either morally revolting or they are being coerced to do it. In either case, porn is disgusting.

Mind reading.

Uh really? You think guys enjoy watching some dude's ugly ass and wrinkled ballsack while watching a woman have sex?

Yes I’m very interested in hearing from males on this, so thank you.

So it’s inbred in men to think that having any sexual thoughts about a man is ‘gay’?

What about the ‘dance scenes’ of years ago? We’d pop pills and enjoy each other no matter what gender they were, the majority of the time the next hour or day we wouldn’t ever consider ourselves as ‘gay’ just having some ‘fun’.

I just read all the replies (so far) and nobody has answered honestly from a man's point of view.

When a man watches people behaving sexually, he imagines he is sexually interacting with the people he is watching. Therefore, if they are all women, he is having sex with all those women... he can kind of ignore the fact that the women are having sex with each other. If there is any man involved, it is more gay because the relationship between the watcher and that man is ... kinda gay.

So it's actually less gay to watch two women together having sex then it is to watch a couple having sex.

Always was :)