I'm not sure how forcing people onto a single currency and making it impossible for countries to control their own currency on a national level is inherently beneficial.

Let's be honest, the people who want BTC to be a single global currency want that to be the case because they feel they are "early" and will massively profit from that happening. Pretending it matters to poor people living paycheck to paycheck for whom money is ephemeral is top tier cringe.

That's not what you were alluding to in your previous comment though, this is you trying to wiggle out of being wrong. You've also failed to address any of the other points.

I'd like to say it was a surprise but it's pretty much the standard for BTC maxis, as soon as they start needing to understand more than first grade economics they just star going "lol, you're so wrong it's funny" with no additional explanation.

Sure, happy to see what you believe qualifies as a new source.

I'd rather child sexual assault material is removed from the network and pedos are not able to use it to distribute and tip each other for content. That means going after hosts of images, relays serving the content (oh and FYI, it is entirely possible for relays to host images directly).

Not only have I reported apps to the IWF and seen multiple people supporting it, you took all of one comment to shift to a position that you're defending networks distributing it.

I think all networks should abide by the national laws in the jurisdictions they operate in. I think that by refusing to censor anything, the future of Nostr is at threat because no normal person is going to stick around contributing to platforms that enable pedos and other abhorrent users.

So I think that ultimately if you stick to you "censor nothing" guns then this platform will do the same as every other decentralized platform and end up as a circlejerk of a few hardcore supporters and a bunch of people too abhorrent to go anywhere else.

Remember, normal people don't have the same incentive to seek out a zero censorship platform because most of them don't have a problem on regular social media platforms as they don't spread illegal content. I've never once been banned from any social media platform.

I think the state will kill clients and relays anyway, and when you support them distributing CSAM you make it significantly easier for government to do so. If you really wanted to stand up to government overreach you'd try to stay within the law so that at least you can get public support. But if Nostr relays and apps get pulled into court for distributing CSAM don't expect people cheering for your side besides NAMBLA supporters.

It doesn't require new debt. It requires luxuries because people like luxuries and so a lot of industry has built around that.

In theory if people wanted to we could remove luxuries from the economy over time to the point that everyone only works in industries that produce essentials and people only buy essentials, but that would be pretty terrible all round.

The problem is that if there's an economic event that causes people to stop buying luxuries suddenly, those industries contract and everyone in them loses money. The rich ones aren't overly affected by this, but all the millions of normal people working in those industries suddenly lose their primary source of income, and that' a pretty huge problem.

The funny thing is you keep telling me I support the billionaires but you're the one supporting a situation that would overwhelmingly hurt poorer people more than anyone else. In your fantasy and billionaires would just buy a shit load of bitcoin to hedge against economic hardship, but poor people living paycheck to paycheck who suddenly have no income would be fucked.

The funny thing is that every time you BTC maxis tend to think you'd be on the OK side of it, more often than not because you're supported by your parents dumping all of your burger flipping money into crypto. Reality isn't something you strive to understand.

Based on your posts your bias is anything that says the state, the existing economic infrastructure or anything related to mainstream media is terrible and bitcoin is the future. That's why you openly demonstrate a complete lack of economic knowledge while trying to pretend you're actually the one that understands it.

Basically anything that support you circle jerking with the rest of your maxis. The sites you get your new from probably all have "coin", "chain" or "crypto" of some variant of the same in their name.

It's certainly being served up by Nostr applications, distributed through messages and allowing the tipping between pedos on the platform. Most of the services also use some form of image proxy too, which means that every time they serve a CSAM image they are "making indecent images" as under the law, creating and serving a copy is making an image.

By the way, it's funny how a minute about you were going "this is bullshit" but withing one post you've already turned into a pedo apologist, trying to justify why CSAM should not be removed from the platform.

You're sick. Seek help you fucking freak.

Ahh yes, another bitcoin fanatic using reductio ad absurdum to support his point. People won't intentionally stop buying food, no, but as is actually evidenced by historic trends people do cut back on luxuries.

And guess what? Luxuries are also produced by companies that employ people, so a drop in demand means they start cutting back on the employees they need, the hours the employ or the pay the offer. That in turn drives people to cut back on essentials due to sheer necessity.

I absolutely support poor people which Is why I don't support ponzi schemes that offer people the ability to get rich by doing nothing which inevitably lead to the majority of poorer people losing out. When bitcoin crashed, who do you think had to sell their stake? People who were sitting on piles of excess money, or poor people who had invested but couldn't keep the cash locked in for several years?

Seriously kid, you need to grow up and embrace the real world.

Sarcasm detected. No I'm sure you read a whole bunch of "independent" news sources that all say the same things and reinforce your preexisting bias.

Unlike you I don't seek out news I agree with, and if anything I try to read more counterpoints that I do those agreeing with me. Unlike you I'm capable of independent thought.

Anyone who states that removing CSAM is censorship is saying that free speech protects CSAM.

Do you believe that absolutely nothing should be able to be removed from the Nostr network, or do you believe that there are limits on what should be allowed?

Here's one such example where the person believes everything including CSAM is in scope of "free speech"

https://void.cat/d/UQrEHp7D2TbX8MeqUSPKRv.webp

That remains to be seen. He want's to remove people's right to choose to have an abortion for a start, hardly a "pro-freedom" position.

He always wants to prohibit certain forms of speech, anything he feels is pushing "pollical correctness" which seems to include anything feminist.

There are also indications from what he's said himself that he intends to use the law to restrict protests against him.

I think he likes to paint himself as pro-freedom, but he's just a standard dictator that only likes freedom for people who agree with him.

🤣 Imagine being a crypto cultist and believing you understand what having a personality is. I read a variety of media sources including some mainstream sources and form my own opinions. You on the other hand receive instructions on how to march in lock-step with your cult and reject any information sources that don't agree with you.

You are shockingly delusional 🤣

If anything the desire of you people to seek more and more extreme positions as some kind of way to shock people is driving people away from supporting you. The problem is that you position yourselves inside echo chambers so you think you're gaining a lot more traction than you are.

Users on this platform have told me that they believe terrorist propaganda and child sexual assault material are protected by free speech. I'd be interested to see if Rowan Atkinson agrees with you guys when that's how far you're going.

How will decentralization fix it? Like if a country has no control over it's own monetary system and a major event occurs that causes a massive drop in spending, how does a country keep its economy afloat if it no longer has any controls over the economic levers?

That is indeed how the economy is structured, yes. Money gets printed and wages go up, ideally resulting in a unit of work continuing to hold the same value while the hoarding of money is discouraged. This in turn stimulates spending which enables producers to keep producing.

The other option is that everyone just tightens their belts and stops spending, which means producers downsize their capacity and let staff go and the economy contracts while a whole bunch of people lose their ability to keep themselves housed and fed.

Are you at all concerned that bitcoin is increasingly associated with conspiracy theorists and propaganda? In the early days I was on board with the idea of crypto becoming a big mainstream thing but the more time goes on the more it's becoming the domain of lunatics and regular people are bailing out.

Pretty much every crypto based social media platform devolves into antivax, climate change denial and other such crazy nonsense.

It then doesn't help that if you try to have any conversation around economics with a crypto bro they pretty much regurgitate the same unfounded claims about the economy and the finance sector and some massive conspiracy against crypto, usually with a strong dose of "they're printing money!" with clear indicators they don't really know what that means or why it happens.

Then it all tends to boil down to them not liking to have to abide with rules of the society they choose to live in, and thinking that any taxes they have to pay are unjust. Though in every case they seem to be glad that society protects them, which is weird. They want societies rules they just don't want to contribute to them or be bound by them 🤣

"Peer reviewed" by an antivax journal no actual scientist would take seriously.

Do you guys just google things you agree with then post is as if it's factual without doing any research into it at all? Do you know what confirmation bias is?

So your response is to post more antivax propaganda? He may have skated by on the "unethical practices" claim but the paper is still retracted from real journal. The journal is has been published in is an antivax journal and so no objective peer review has taken place. Just a bunch of idiots nodding along with each other because the paper pushes the narrative they want even though to call it "factually inaccurate" would be a massive understatement.

Ultimately if what you want is a platform that allow Nazis, pedos, antivaxxers and conspiracy theories to circlejerk and cheer each other on, then congratulations you're getting that. But normal people will only see it as further evidence that cryptocurrency is designed to benefit the most abhorrent parts of society and will push back against your platform and the causes you are pushing.

And if you're such a luddite that you don't want to understand the actual science then you do you. But you choose to live in a society that has rules and will protect itself so don't expect the rest of us to allow you to put people in danger without repercussions.

If you're not engaged in criminal transactions then does it really matter?