yes their entire infrastructure is built around reading from a single relay. switching to an outbox model would be a complete rewrite (aka building a real nostr client). I would like to hear from an engineer on miljans team on how they plan on doing that exactly vs vague future promises.

I've talked to miljan many times about this in person. it would be a huge issue if many people are onboarded to nostr this way and then the app goes down, with people thinking nostr is broken.

Pardon, it's {"kinds":[39089],"search":"bitcoin"}

Topics are retarded, and you have not answered my question.

I think the client is nice not only for newcomers. Right now I believe it's the best implementation I've encountered for viewing notes filtered by specific topics.

I hope nostr clients will do that so I can render it :)

you can now filter for packs that include you

39089

A Nostr client with no concept of "follows", you just get shown some content from selected relays, then if you like -- or if you read (your local client would know by your clicking or how much time your spent on each thread, no one else) -- that person gets added to a dynamic ranking of possible interests, so you start to softly "follow" them (by which I mean the client fetches their notes specifically from their relays). As you interact with new notes and new people that dynamic list changes.

Slightly harder to migrate, but I think that's a feature. In the current spec, I have a "federation" event that relays can publish (and use independently of groups) in order to host another relay's notes.

Cons of relay as groups:

- Higher barrier to entry for groups (I actually think this is a good thing)

- Weak security — you don't get any of the neat stuff that encrypted groups give you. Although you do potentially get deniability if relays strip signatures.

- Might be slightly more foreign to non-technical users to adopt

- Implicit policy means functionality will always outstrip interface. Again, I think it's a good thing, but it has its challenges, since clients can't always know whether an event is going to be accepted. Error handling becomes very important, and isn't always the best UX

- Relay-based groups sort of preclude alternative transports if we ever wanted them.

But these are all minor, and can be overcome or worked around.

We must fix mention spam.

Nostr is blocked in china