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Marakesh 𓅦
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But Doug Casey has said that anything that is about to collapse anyway deserves to be pushed...

According to the Apostle, Stephen Hawking had one necessary stop before his eternal destiny:

"For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each may be repaid for what he has done in the body, whether good or evil. Therefore, since we know the fear of the Lord, we try to persuade people..." (2 Corinthians 5:10–11)

Have you earned a soul yet? Or are you still your as your pfp depicts you? 😸

ah, so you believe in conditional immortality. Do you think he would have undergone some punishment before being extinguished?

Unless his consciousness was extinguished he should know now...

i think that the fact that you have to make so many distinctions about the word God says something

in some places the text means "who made the universe" aka "God the Creator"

in other places it means "God the Father" who is the Father referred to by Jesus and anthropomorphic (the prior one is not anthropomorphic), this one wants the best for us and most certainly isn't in the business of choosing and weeps for all who are lost

in still other places it basically means Satan, and blinding people is one of his games, if i understand the way that some little parts of the bible (especially the ones full of rules about chopping people's body parts or stoning them to death) or who calls for war, these are false Gods that are either idols or the ideals of a dictator or a dictatorial cult

in still other places it means people whose knowledge is incomprehensibly greater than ours, and sometimes these ones are also called Angels but the most high ones are called Lord and these ones in Genesis are the ones blamed for snubbing the welcome gifts such as the case of Cain or other ones which you can find later in Genesis, and notably the one where Jacob "steals" the blessing of Abraham is an example of the same dynamic, the godhood is imputed by one of the individuals upon a human and is taken to be a curse and this leads to psychotic behaviour (ie, making war or murder)

the more i learn about the apocrypha the more sure i am that this is the gamut of the various kinds of God that are often named with confusingly similar words

it's my opinion that one of the gifts we have as created beings is the ability to make our own judgement how we wish to percieve the world and that this choice is key to what is weighed up at the final Judgement

at least, that's how i read it all

"For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth—as there are many “gods” and many “lords”— yet for us there is one God, the Father. All things are from him, and we exist for him. And there is one Lord, Jesus Christ. All things are through him, and we exist through him." 1 Corinthians 8:5–6 (CSB)

I recently read some things that are stretching my understanding of theology. "Psalm 82 explains that God rules over this assembly of other ‘elohim whom He identifies as gods. They are not eternal, all-knowing, or all-powerful like He is, but they are still called gods", Tim Chaffey, Fallen: The Sons of God and the Nephilim (Richmond, Kentucky: Risen books, 2019), p. 91.

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"As strange as it may seem to modern readers, when we put all of these passages together, we see that God gave control of one nation to each bene ’elohim of the divine council. Or put another way, he allotted gods to each of the nations, although He kept Israel for Himself. He charged these gods to rule justly, and now we know why—so that the people would seek God. But we learn from Psalm 82 that they showed partiality to the wicked (v. 2) rather than providing justice. They failed to uphold the practices God required of them, such as defending the poor and fatherless and being just toward the afflicted and needy (v. 3). Do you remember the last line of that psalm? It will make more sense now that we’ve looked at these three passages in Deuteronomy. Psalm 82:8 states, “Arise, O God, judge the earth; for you shall inherit all the nations” (ESV).

"At Babel, God gave the bene ’elohim authority over the nations, except for the one nation He would start with one man and his barren wife (Abram and Sarai). By the time Psalm 82 was written, the divine council members had failed miserably in their assigned tasks. They had led their own peoples into idolatry and injustice. Consequently, they deserved to be judged, and Yahweh would inherit all the nations", ibid, pp. 147-48.

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I believe that's the case as well, but as you know, there's no punctuation in the original Greek text. And Calvinists do believe that unbelievers are not capable of believing because they are not elected for salvation, according to Calvinism/August indianism. So perhaps they might agree that God the Father has blinded them from believing, as well...

"the god of this age has blinded the minds of the unbelievers to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of #Christ, who is the image of God."

–Paul the Apostle, 2 Corinthians 4:4

If you were a con man, making up a religion and claims about a man being resurrected from the dead, would you make these kind of admissions? 🤔

“Now if Christ is proclaimed as raised from the dead, how can some of you say, “There is no resurrection of the dead”? If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised; and if Christ has not been raised, then our proclamation is in vain, and so is your faith. Moreover, we are found to be false witnesses about God, because we have testified wrongly about God that he raised up Christ—whom he did not raise up, if in fact the dead are not raised. For if the dead are not raised, not even Christ has been raised. And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins. Those, then, who have fallen asleep in Christ have also perished. If we have put our hope in #Christ for this life only, we should be pitied more than anyone.”

https://ref.ly/1Co15.12-19 via the Logos Bible Android app.

GM!