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Replying to Avatar jimmysong

The Case for a Chain Split

The debate surrounding drivechains has been heating up, with proponents employing various tactics to garner support. This divisive issue echoes previous disputes in the Bitcoin community, such as the 2017 block size controversy. As such, we should consider what was then the definitive resolution: a chain split.

A significant portion of the Bitcoin community rejects drivechains, effectively blocking its implementation via a soft fork. Bitcoin's voluntary nature makes it resistant to hostile takeovers, despite claims that miners could force the change. Disagree with that last statement? Then let's put that to the test. We can resolve this posturing and propaganda by forking the code.

Here's how it would work: Code implementing drivechains would be released. Those who support the proposal can run this code. A transaction that goes against drivechain rules but adheres to pre-drivechain rules will trigger a chain split. Those running the drivechain software wouldn't be doing anything, but nodes that aren't can reject the drivechain chain by using the "invalidateblock" command. The result will be two distinct Bitcoins: one with drivechains and one without.

This approach was resolved the conflict we had in August 2017, when Bitcoin Cash split off from Bitcoin. Similarly, proponents and opponents of drivechains can either hold or sell their respective Bitcoins post-split. This would be a real-world test of control and game theory within the network.

I advocate for this split not just for potential profits, but also because it's a peaceful solution. It would let us see in real time how convicted the drivechain people are. Will drivechain miners support it if it means mining at a loss? A chain split would serve as a critical learning opportunity for the community, providing a clear answer to the ongoing debate. Ultimately, this will strengthen Bitcoin by showing the market how hard it is to change its properties.

So bring it on! Fork or shut up.

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Jimmy. I have a concern that with a fork it creates “profits” for those of us holding Bitcoin. That would lead me to believe that the 21 million coins are unlimited over time if hard forks continue to happen. How do you square that thought up?

There are three pricing regimes for Bitcoin. Before existence of paper bitcoin. Paper Bitcoin and after the destruction of paper bitcoin. Up through the 2017 bull run, paper bitcoin had little to no effect on pricing. Since 2018 the paper bitcoin market has grown to greatly impact price and still does to this day. While the ETF’s will slightly boost price, in the long run they will be used as tools to dampen price. When will it end? When only holding and trading real Bitcoin is acceptable and trust is lost in traditional financial markets. Sooner….than later. The final pricing regime of Bitcoin is on it’s way. Prepare yourself by buying Bitcoin and holding on a cold wallet.

If the lightning network continues it’s growth trajectory it will become the largest holder of bitcoin in 10 years.

When BTC goes to the moon, BTC ETF’s will go to zero.

Luke is the best. Gromer…Goomer…Gromen…either way he brings it. Thanks for having him on and a great pod.

Bitcoin can do so many things but it can’t go Bankrupt.

Hey Caitlin, setup a wallet of Satoshi to receive sats (zaps). You might be surprised how many sats over time you will receive. You are doing such good work for us all. You will receive recognition through zaps instead of just “likes”

Setup my first Bitcoin appliance, the Heatbit! It’s an early adoption of Bitcoin mining into a functional plug and play appliance for the home. No doubt the future will have many appliances in the home and work mining bitcoin while conducting specific home tasks.

Good stuff! …just watched play Misty for me tonight! Crazy timing.

Replying to Avatar MrHodl

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We need to get the other states on board. I live in Oklahoma. How do we educate these politicians?