Furthermore just because it will get made doesn't mean you personally should make it too if it was a bad idea.
I realize that dealing with us and listening to us bleat about this must be incredibly frustrating but we are telling you that there are demons beyond that door, this network hasn't been but caressed by the truly pathological personalities that can mass-abuse any tool you make.
solution to this is incredibly hard because it is a social problem not easy to address and solve with technical solutions. but right now you're suggesting shooting yourself in the foot and people are recommending you not shoot yourself in the foot.
who assigns the numbers, how will they exercise control over assignment and how do you deal with new types that are being experimented with or do they just always have to be formalized?
I made my own little experiment last year that used numbers and the way i did this was the type was a 128-bit hash of a name combined with a version number of the activity.
an effort is being made to try to help nostr developers avoid repeating a massive adoption asnd usability problem with the fediverse. it's impossible from stopping someone from doing it but she is trying to tell you guys _you_ shouldn't do it and more generally that culturally the network should resist accepting these tools.
"based on ideology" doesn't even cover it, if you piss off the wrong person they just lie about you and you get on the list (that you can never get off of)
It's hard to give positive recommendations because what "works" for the Fediverse relies heavily on server-level response which nostr does not have, and also because we are a permissive instance we don't aggressively police content. It is perfectly reasonable for individuals to want to heavily curate their experience. We just know what things caused huge problems over here. I want to reiterate that I believe people can and should block but we just know that organized shared block systems turn into a nightmare. Not for my sake (people block us for a reason) but all the people that _actually_ did nothing wrong and ended up on these lists and the network just becomes unusuable unless they start over with a completely new identity not connectable with the old one.
I got dinged with someone quote-posted me recently.
Can you clarify if you are pro or con blocklist by this?
the question when presented with this is will individual app developers think about the utility of the feature in terms of how it helps the individual or will they consider the effect it will end up having on the overall health of the network. part of the problem is that none of them ever even looked at these problems on other networks, so they will just make the same mistakes on here.
there is nothing terribly wrong with subscribing to someone else's mute list, the problem is when you add it as a normal feature it starts happening en mass and then it becomes the sum of all people's choices which ends up actually being bad. the distinction is subtle.
If you don't think you can be censored on the NOSTR network, then ask yourself: why are NIP-57 "zap" payments only payable in Bitcoin? What if I want to zap you in Ethereum ("zethps?") It is literally hardcoded and you cannot do it. No freedom of choice. Bitcoin Uber Alles. Do you know who else said that?
I am immune to propaganda.
Also send me zaps I say literally anything
I read multiple different sources and then diff them in my head to try to figure out who's repeating propaganda or not mentioning something important. it's a giant hassle. sometimes even propagandists will say something true if it's negative about their target
I completely agree, but Nostr is still in its early stages.
Although I believe the Nostr protocol is superior to ActivityPub (as noted in https://dri.es/nostr-love-at-first-sight), protocol superiority is not enough for Nostr to win.
In order for Nostr to become a viable alternative to Twitter and Mastodon, the overall end user experience needs to improve dramatically.
And the ultimate user experience for Nostr is this: engaging, thought-provocing, cutting-edge conversations across a diverse range of interesting topics.
Currently, these types of conversations have been infrequent on Nostr.
To improve the overall end-user experience, two things are necessary: (1) we need significant improvements to Nostr clients to make them more polished and user-friendly, and (2) we need to attract more interesting people that can bring along a more diverse user base and community.
It is impressive to witness the rapid progress that @jb55 is making with the Damus client. I'd shift more investment to Damus. Specifically, I'd love to see @jb55 surrounded with more UX testers and UX researchers. Clients like Damus are the gateway to Nostr.
Over the past few years, a significant number of leaders in web development and the Indieweb community have migrated to Mastodon. This shift was largely driven by the alignment of their values with the open and decentralized nature of Mastodon. As a result, Mastodon has become the primary hub for the most engaging web development conversations today.
In my opinion, the web development community would be an excellent early adopter for Nostr. The same reasons that prompted their adoption of Mastodon could apply to Nostr as well.
Furthermore, the web development community played a key role in Twitter's early success, as @jack may recall. I personally became a Twitter user in 2007, when the platform was less than a year old, after a conversation with Ev Williams and Larry Page.
The web development community could be a valuable target audience for Nostr. Not only are they technically savvy and able to navigate through difficult-ish user interfaces, they can also brings some more diverse and engaging conversations. Additionally, web developers have the ability to create integrations that can enhance the reach of Nostr. Since I blogged about Nostr on my site, two Nostr integrations have been created for Drupal already.
Furthermore, the web development community has a strong presence online, which can lead to increased visibility and promotion of Nostr through their blog posts, website links, and social media. Overall, targeting the web development community seems to be an opportunity for Nostr.
nitpick i guess
> Nostr employs hash-based identification for users
They're just the full public key, some of them are generated using a hashing function but it's not required.
several parts of it were designed even worse than activitypub which is retarded considering it came after activitypub but that has never been a thing that stops something from becoming popular
I updated my private Iris copy
We were in there too, how soon until author is "canceled"