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Goodharts law: "When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure". Clients, open source or not will have their WOT metrics known or approximated which are now targets to optimize.

Whatever the system that is constructed to keep bad actors away is, its its still a proxy for human trust which is fallable.

Sure I trust myself for most of my curation, moreso with a WOT. However I would like to be signaled and not encounter known bad actors encountered by my community/s.

Considering the long game strategies and the long history of inciting intra group division and then letting them destroy themselves from the inside out. Can we solve it completely? No, but we can build robust tools to help guard against it.

Which is the whole point, a gradient of controls for both the users and relay operators. Users decide how wide open their feed is from external users and they also subscribe to relay operators that align with their curation ideals.

nostr:npub1zafcms4xya5ap9zr7xxr0jlrtrattwlesytn2s42030lzu0dwlzqpd26k5 do you know how many clients are able to display zap polls? Could be a good zapraiser method. Other suggestions appreciated!

Precisely. Curate what you want to see, delegate mass curation to who controls your relays. If you want to see everything, personal and free relays are where its at and you'll broadcast whatever you want there as well.

WoT can be gamed and gets more difficult with more users, especially if you're not caching it. As tools develop it will get more difficult to game, but that just means that those with intentions for to infiltrated are that much stronger. It is the use of both top-down (relay level- owner, leaders of communities) and bottup-up (user level- WOT with tweakable parameters) to help best curate signal at multiple scales.

Being such a small community of early nostr users we don't need to worry about narrative takeover as much. However when nostr gets popular, connecting to the Damus relay or any other free relay for a wiki can quickly turn into quite the shitshow. Which is why I think nostr:npub1zuuajd7u3sx8xu92yav9jwxpr839cs0kc3q6t56vd5u9q033xmhsk6c2uc's nostr.how is such a great opportunity for a nostr knowledge base. A relay of white listed users creating content which can exist alongside the static content. Write articles about nostr at whatever level they care or as specified by whatever community guidelines for posting

Another great example is nostr:npub1stemstrls4f5plqeqkeq43gtjhtycuqd9w25v5r5z5ygaq2n2sjsd6mul5 or nostr:npub1yfg0d955c2jrj2080ew7pa4xrtj7x7s7umt28wh0zurwmxgpyj9shwv6vg having a community knowledgebase for its own users - not only for how to navigate their own app, but knowledge about anything music creation and colaboration. Beyond the service is the creation of some community with shared values, which encourages continual use of the service.

with a fleshed out wiki ecosystem I'd love to analyze and extract the most divisive content - basically and intersection in content but a schizm in interpretation. Where are ideas initially published to and then broadcasted? How do groups curate their narrative? How robust are groups to external community brigading?

Maybe a zapraiser for fine grained muting controls? Would need a way to specify which client you're donating for though.

We need to embrace biases. You've mentioned there being no global state. In many cases there is no global truth, but smaller local truths emerge from groups with a set of cohesive values. By embracing biases we will encourage polarized opinions, but this is perfectly fine because we don't need to fight censorship here. At some point I'd imagine a group with overlapping and consistent ideals would want to curate their narrative and content. This is also perfectly fine because they can close down their relay to their trusted members, but keep it read only to everyone else. Nostr members external to that community can find value, broadcast it to their exclusive relays and further develop on those ideas.

You don't get the best meal by throwing every ingredient and spice into it. Communities will find the right amount of mixing when they are provided the right tools for it.

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All the content from https://theosophy.wiki/ is being imported into the Nostr wiki:

https://wikistr.com/npub1j55qhqrlpnzsgy38n8j3v25n49vrcrjaypvrl5esa6dy2x8dhcrst7xx0y/a--theodore-bondy*95280b807f0cc504122799e5162a93a9583c0e5d20583fd330ee9a4518edbe07

Why? I have no idea. But consider it a gift to all of you who love theosophy. And let me know if there are other nice wikis out there worth cloning.

what about technical documentation?

"We believe the reader should be free to copy, update, and redistribute GNU documentation, just like GNU software."

https://www.gnu.org/doc/doc.html

https://www.gnu.org/manual/manual.html

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