Nostr Web Client

I wish nostr:npub12vkcxr0luzwp8e673v29eqjhrr7p9vqq8asav85swaepclllj09sylpugg defaulted to “latest with replies” for its new users’ view

Only root posts misses most of the signal

ManiMe 1y ago

I wish clients would agree on a standard for content filters so that we could choose our own!!

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If I can see this I am too.

ManiMe 1y ago 💬 1

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha…..

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PABLOF7z

Who’s that? Why does he have a number on his name? Seems suspicious

ManiMe 1y ago

Now that you mention … 🧐

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PABLOF7z

Thank you!

ManiMe 1y ago 💬 1

Don’t forget nostr:npub1l2vyh47mk2p0qlsku7hg0vn29faehy9hy34ygaclpn66ukqp3afqutajft …

He gets around… but can easily go unnoticed. 🧐

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Don't Believe The Vibe 🌱🍋🍊

Where we are going, the noise doesn't matter.

ManiMe 1y ago 💬 1

Can I use this for a pfp?

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Laeserin 🇻🇦

4 be like,

Devs, but in pink, with sparkles

ManiMe 1y ago 💬 1

Dude. Rainbows and sparkles are my thang!!

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il_lost_

Nip-49

ManiMe 1y ago

> “It is not recommended that users publish these encrypted private keys to nostr, as cracking a key may become easier when an attacker can amass many encrypted private keys.” https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/blob/master/49.md

So this ncrypt would not be stored on relays?

Is “pasting” ncrypt into browser clients safer than “pasting” nsec?

What clients support ncrypt?

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Laeserin 🇻🇦

I made these factors up, of course, as we have no data set to analyze. But they feel pretty darn truthy, don't they?

ManiMe 1y ago 💬 1

5) Devs (mostly men) posting about building nostr.

4) female (or not grumpy) nostr devs.

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Laeserin 🇻🇦

* Everyone is presumed to be unmarried, unless they say otherwise.

ManiMe 1y ago 💬 1

8

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Kemal

A mural tribute to Akira Toriyama was painted by more then 45 artists in Peru.

https://video.nostr.build/96ffd7fa9d18e5e4053fba43d03677670820fd5b88a126bbc31b1123c219a065.mp4

ManiMe 1y ago

Awesome.

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9sirtom5

Take a quiz! https://nostrcheck.me/media/df359d2c9a2a62c0d1728c62bcc05466aabb40927a321a7750b228000a776c84/9c38d1c6af46321fa00d80db986d98b7c5c75aa71538641b0f08e1980ec7338c.webp

ManiMe 1y ago

Boy. I thought four quadrants was pretty simple. 🤯

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OpenSecret

This is usually because there were pending payments that did not complete before you went offline for a few days.

ManiMe 1y ago

That might have happened…. But now will cost me $5 or so usd to open up a new channel?

Can I cancel “pending” payments when I close the app? I want a workaround.

ManiMe 1y ago 💬 6

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Wondering what is “ncrypt”?

#AFAF #ecash #nsec

ManiMe 1y ago

#sovwot #wotnip #wot

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Egge

People might now be aware of this, but nostr is such an easy target for personalised ads and big data. While the web struggles to establish static identifiers and user profiles, nostr has all of it built in. Your identifier is your pubkey. Your profile data already is publicly available. It is a piece of cake for an advertiser to serve targeted ads to you, just by knowing your public key.

Here is a simplified example: I could go ahead and analyse relay traffic, then proceed to build a database that maps pubkeys to interest and demographics (for example by running all your notes through an LLM). Then I could go to any advertiser and tell them that I can offer them an audience „Male 21-35 yo, interested in tech and steaks“. Display campaigns with similar targets yield 3-6$ CPM on the traditional web.

Finally I would approach Will (who would surely decline, but just for the sake of this example) and tell him that he could earn 200$ per day be simply requesting a display ad from my server every ten posts on Damus feed. All he needed to do is to implement my SDK and send the users public key with the request…

This gets even worse on the web, because JavaScript and cookies…

This is a dystopia that might become reality if client developers can not find a less shitty way to monetise… nostr:note1ltskvvkn4avertvjlpyrw5jhcc9jgwxxx5cfpkrnr7kd99z7kh0s09rtec

ManiMe 1y ago

A less shitty way to monetize … will be the market that opens up when users subscribe to and share their best “Sovereign WoT” filters.

The money is in content discovery. Algos are not the problem. Freedom of choice is the solution.

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Egge

People might now be aware of this, but nostr is such an easy target for personalised ads and big data. While the web struggles to establish static identifiers and user profiles, nostr has all of it built in. Your identifier is your pubkey. Your profile data already is publicly available. It is a piece of cake for an advertiser to serve targeted ads to you, just by knowing your public key.

Here is a simplified example: I could go ahead and analyse relay traffic, then proceed to build a database that maps pubkeys to interest and demographics (for example by running all your notes through an LLM). Then I could go to any advertiser and tell them that I can offer them an audience „Male 21-35 yo, interested in tech and steaks“. Display campaigns with similar targets yield 3-6$ CPM on the traditional web.

Finally I would approach Will (who would surely decline, but just for the sake of this example) and tell him that he could earn 200$ per day be simply requesting a display ad from my server every ten posts on Damus feed. All he needed to do is to implement my SDK and send the users public key with the request…

This gets even worse on the web, because JavaScript and cookies…

This is a dystopia that might become reality if client developers can not find a less shitty way to monetise… nostr:note1ltskvvkn4avertvjlpyrw5jhcc9jgwxxx5cfpkrnr7kd99z7kh0s09rtec

ManiMe 1y ago

Nostr’s “weakness” that everything is “public” is also its superpower.

The more a commodity is freely and openly available, the less value it has for exploitation in the market.

User data and user attention are the TWO commodities in play here. Simply by assuring open access and freedom of choice for the users in both of these domains, Nostr has (potential) to eliminate this market for ad revenue.

Because clients hold the power to “implement” content filters of their choosing, without consent from end users, the marketing of user attention is still a vulnerability for Nostr.

“Sovereign Webs of Trust” (where users have domain over who “is trusted” and what “filters” to implement across clients) is the solution.

What would this look like for you?

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rabble

Last week i gave a quick 6 minute talk about #Nostr and the #Fediverse at the Fediforum online conference. A recording of the talk is now online. Apologies for any errors or bumbling of the presentation, it was 4am.

In the breakout session later a lot of people were excited about what Nostr can do and they were envious of our apps, interoperability, and ability to monetize. They were held back by the fact that, for them, they've got a way of grouping a community based on a server with a focus on the local timeline, and they felt the instance way of managing behavior worked for them. I, like most folks here, think the coupling of identity, content, with trust and safety in a single instance is fundamentally broken. It's the HOA problem. What stuck out at me was if we could provide an alternative to HOA server admins, that helped bring users together in a community and also let them opt in to a moderation / trust and safety system, they'd be interested in Nostr as an alternative to the ActivityPub based fediverse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Il6WPmpygxA

ManiMe 1y ago

Thanks rabble.

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Nature is Amazing ☘️

Grey wolf transforms into a good boy when he is visited by the people that helped raise their pack https://t.co/QgfgEedNpt https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1772046996259438592/pu/vid/avc1/480x480/CVVP0w3KvwIiL6fz.mp4?tag=12

ManiMe 1y ago

So big!!!

ManiMe 1y ago 💬 4

No I did not. nostr:npub1mutnyacc9uc4t5mmxvpprwsauj5p2qxq95v4a9j0jxl8wnkfvuyque23vg

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ManiMe

Sovereign Webs of Trust…

Curious?

*Read this article for my short take.*

https://yakihonne.com/article/naddr1qqgx2e3cxqenqef3x56kvd3nxymxzq3qmanlnflyzyjhgh970t8mmngrdytcp3jrmaa66u846ggg7t20cgqqxpqqqp65w7jk7e3

*Comment bellow to offer your own.*

1. What does Sovereign WoT mean to you?

2. Does it require “is trusted” (for a followed account) to be explicitly set by the user, or could “is trusted” be ONLY calculated by algos and still count as sovereign?

3. If explicit is required, can “is trusted” simply be a “follows” (kind3) list, or does it actually need a dedicated ( private event kind) “trusted” list?

4. Would (your) Sovereign WoT require that content filters follow users across clients, and be sharable by them?

5. Should these filters (for end users) be publishable ONLY by clients or ONLY by relays or ONLY by DVMs or ANY and ALL of these?

ManiMe 1y ago

**Sovereign Webs of Trust.**

Take the #survey. ☝🏼

#wot #sovwot #wotnip #asknostr

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Laeserin 🇻🇦

Yes, this isn't new.

ManiMe 1y ago 💬 1

I’m sorry. How are we not saying the same thing?

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ManiMe

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ManiMe 1y ago

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ManiMe

Ive been honking this horn for weeks.

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ManiMe 1y ago 💬 1

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Laeserin 🇻🇦

My point being that your algo should be the default because anything else is just irritating to the user, but that a possibility for additional curation can be accomodated.

Perhaps with a list, even, so that they have it available in any client or it could be accounted for by curation relays like filter.wine.

ManiMe 1y ago 💬 2

Ive been honking this horn for weeks.

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