It's still hilarious to me that he blamed 'the speculators', and not the faft they the US wasn't able to stop spending and couldn't offer gold back to France and others for years.

Yeah, sorry.

But I'll add, I HOPE you see the correct one. I want them to save hundreds of billions.

The building will be used for storage. Employees will still come and go. Insurance savings will be minimal, but some.

Trash is forced fixed cost as is water/sewer in the complex.

Electricity will be cut down to minimal cost, however they didn't have high use previously as their is a landlord credit given with the lease. Some savings here.

For sure the internet bill is gone.

I am completely ballparking as I do not have access to their insurance, full electric, or internet cost.

If I am wrong, ok.

Gotta go. Peace.

I own a 9 unit commercial complex, my own 5k sqft building, and run own a biz condo in a complex. Lol, but ok.

And therin lies some of the scam.

Either way, have a great Saturday. I've got a freezer to fill with my beef order.

Of course not. It may save $200 per month. That's likely high.

Sorry, I wasn't clear. There is no dispute on the amount. The amount is accurate as best as I can tell from both the landlord and federal employees. The timeline and claiming it is being saved is the issue. By the time the lease is up, the Dems will have taken back the house and Senate, and if large enough, could freeze everything in the savings.

Tell you what. I'll change my original note:

I am very skeptical of DOGE's savings claims. The reason I am skeptical to them being as high being as high as their website claims to be saving money from a local federal office that is near me is not actually closing for 1.5-2 years due to a costly lease termination requirement. The staff will however move to a close by office. So I suppose there will be some electricity and internet savings.

Because of this local claim, while possible, I find it hard to believe this is the only listed savings on the DOGE website that isn't completely accurate.

Better? 😉

Yes, a conversation.

It's not a debate if neither side can prove their opinion to be true, nor do I care to sway you. It's just chatting as normal people do. In this case it is impossible to sway one side or the other using data, since the data doesn't exist. Or at least normies do not have access to it. All we have is a partisan website with random shit on it that may or may not be true.

Debating what? It's my opinion.

You have yours. Neither of us have access to government inside documents that show whether the doge website is complete bs or is on track to actually save 200B.

What is there to debate?

0% employment should be the goal. While not possible, a fantastic goal!

Yes, my opinion is 95% of doge is contracts that dont exist, leases that can't save money for a while and BS.

So? I didn't say you must change your mind here is why.

You are free to believe in villain Elon, I am free to not.

The fact that only 4k government jobs were lost in March is telling though, isn't it? When supposedly a a hundred thousand had been fired.

Have a great day.

I completely disagree.

Robots should do everything. The money should be sound. We shouldn't have to work more than a few hours per week(unless you want to) as purchasing power skyrockets from tech and productivity.

Sorry, I didn't realize we were debating the effectiveness of it.

I have no beef with stocks dropping. The bond overnight issues however deeply concern me. It could have been BAD had he not caved.

It's a fun meme, but if global liquidity markets actually freeze worse than 2008, lending stops, trade and shipping stops, banks halt withdrawals, payroll companies have no money, businesses can't pay rent, people lose jobs and home, groceries have less food, and on and on.

The purchasing power of Bitcoin would drop tremendously as people need other currencies to buy things they need and to just stay afloat. Since as you say, they saved in it.

In the future, yes. On 2025? No.

Hahaha. Indeed!

Oh. Nah, I'm not going to dox myself and/or town, sorry.

GM!

Ah. In my view, there is nothing good about going back to manufacturing. Putting my neighbors into a factory stamping steel or making tools is not a good thing. IMO.