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Oh dear. I have so muchh to learn. I thought running a node was automatically a Lightning Node on the Blockchain. So they are two different things…this explains folks calling LN level 2. Or is that Level 3? Gawd hep me. nostr:note1u0m2j5tly88n9gqcqhj3kn2q9rglam0dytctn2qc5ykzcr7c8whsvxd0f7

average_bitcoiner 2y ago

You're doing great!

There are nodes at each layer of bitcoin.

Layer 0 node - People! The gossip amongst each other sharing stories and experiences. The most critical nodes of bitcoin. These nodes never truly sync and the consensus is super small in size.

Layer 1 node - The timechain nodes. These nodes maintain the ledger (or a portion of the ledger) aka blockchain and handle transactions. Thes nodes also gossip but mainly about the state of the network. Sharing transaction and block data amongst each other. Each node has it's own current snapshot of pending transactions (the mempool of that node) but all agree on historical transactions for the most part. The older the transaction, the more likely it's agreed upon. After about an hour, it's pretty certain that transaction will not change, ever,

Layer 2 node - Lightning! These nodes create channels between each other to swap small amount of sats back and forth. They'll also route payments among their channel partners. They take a small fee to do so. The biggest consensus piece of this is between two channel partners. They have to agree on the balance of their channel (who sent what amount to whom) and can go to the Layer 1 chain to dispute this. This is where zaps live.

Layer 3?? There is debate as to what constitutes Layer 3, but the debate is mainly among Layer 0.

Keep studying bitcoin! And continue to sync your Layer 0 node with others. :)

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BitBees 2y ago

You are very kind and patient. nostr:npub1aeh2zw4elewy5682lxc6xnlqzjnxksq303gwu2npfaxd49vmde6qcq4nwx has been extremely encouraging and even invited us to Nodestritch. We ate on it but reading the replies make me aware how surface we are, and how deep they are. We travel for weeks at a time ( at certain times a year), and can’t be as attentive to setting up our node as we need to be. Node on the run!

average_bitcoiner 2y ago

It’s a journey.

And 🤔

You should consider checking out nostr:npub126ntw5mnermmj0znhjhgdk8lh2af72sm8qfzq48umdlnhaj9kuns3le9ll ‘s StartOS. They use TOR for easy (albeit slower) access to your node from anywhere. And the interface is quite user friendly.

You could run it at a friend or family’s house if that’s available to you.

The Daniel ⚡️ 2y ago

OR YOU COULD PUT A NODE IN YOUR PHONE WITH nostr:npub1xnf02f60r9v0e5kty33a404dm79zr7z2eepyrk5gsq3m7pwvsz2sazlpr5 😁⚡️

CraigTheSpaceBum 2y ago

Until you loose your phone on a ride at Disney world 🌎

average_bitcoiner 2y ago

Have to go to Disney world to lose the phone.

🧠

Not going to groomer town.

CraigTheSpaceBum 2y ago

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2w5hud

BitBees 2y ago

Too funny! We made our last trip to Disney decades ago. It’s supercool that one can run a node on a phone.

BitBees 2y ago

So you recommend the Zeus node phone sitch.

The Daniel ⚡️ 2y ago

If your goal is to run self custody Lightning with no hardware setup, it’s the way to go.

damian 2y ago

Zeus has node in the phone? I’ve been trying to connect my own ln node to zeus.

The Daniel ⚡️ 2y ago

You can do that, too.

BitBees 2y ago

Yes, at least, it sounds easier, less cumbersome. But when you get in the mountains, there is no internet in a lot of the places we go and stay for quite a while. So the node in the phone motif might be wrong, too, for our sitch, or, am I missing something?