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Day 12 of keto diet. I'm only down 1.3 kg (about the weight of glycogen and water) so far. I hit that number already on day 3, so really no progress for 9 days now. I'm rather disappointed, I thought I could eat as much as I want and still lose weight. Maybe the reason this works for so many people is that they were previously eating junk... whereas I was not previously eating junk. I've been using strips to test my ketosis and I've stayed in ketosis the whole time.

On the plus side the diet is quite satiating. It's super easy to do. I don't have cravings and don't have to use will-power to make it through. I could do this forever if I chose to, nearly effortlessly.

The other plus is my IBS is gone. This isn't the first time I've been able to do that -- just giving up grains, milk and coffee caused it to go away previously. I've identified all three of those as culprits, each multiplying the effect of the others.

Only I'm not convinced that eating a diet that doesn't cause weight loss but does jack up my LDL is a good idea (please don't respond with "LDL is good" unless you personally authored the study ok? I don't draw scientific conclusions from Internet advisors).

So I'll probably move back to a grain-free (but with beans), milk-free (but with cheese), sugar-free, heavy vegetable and meat diet with fruit in season.... but I'll give keto a bit longer.

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Doesnt that stuff stop you up?

You mean the keto diet foods, or the stuff I listed at the end? I have IBS-D, so being "stopped up" is a welcome relief. In fact they seem to cancel and so for me it makes me normal and regular.

i was thinking the Keto foods. looked at it, but thought maybe not for me. i am an old fart.

Thanks for sharing

no surprise there. i also had zero weight loss on low carb. only difference is i don't have IBS to worry about, so even less reason for me to do it.

i did lose 60 lbs by counting calories and doing cardio - in other words the way pro bodybuilders do it.

never tried fasting but i am sure it would work.

as i told you - you can't have fun eating delicious food 24/7 to your heart's content, not do any exercise and expect to lose weight.

carnivore only works when people literally just do meat, salt and water. once you add any flavor into the mix it's game over.

Describing essentially what I do. Strongly carb-restricted "paleo" ish + dairy. Basically just buy whole food ingredients (vegetables, fruit, meat, fish) and combine them myself (except for the dairy products).

It's the healthiest I've ever been.

i do not recommend milk or cheese.

i can only recommend whey protein from dairy.

milk and cheese contain too much calcium - very bad.

Whey protein is garbage. Its literally leftovers from cheese making.

see my response to Vinney where i tagged you.

What's wrong with calcium?

the dose makes the poison. it's not the calcium that is the issue - but the amount of it in dairy.

excess calcium can potentially calcify your arteries. likewise mega-dosing synthetic Vitamin D ( as opposed to getting your Vitamin D from food and sun ) can also calcify your arteries as Vitamin D is key in allowing you to absorb calcium and when you take too much you absorb too much calcium.

with anything natural in Human diet ( like Calcium ) it's not a question of good or bad but how much is too much or not enough.

babies need mega-doses of calcium because they are born with under-developed short, soft bones which must rapidly lengthen and solidify. adult calcium needs are more modest.

furthermore most people are deficient in magnesium which calcium competes with. high dose calcium will flush magnesium out of your body making you even more deficient.

it's a lose-lose situation.

luckily the calcium in dairy is mostly in the casein / cheese. in fact when you buy casein it is sometimes called "calcium caseinate" ... a single serving of Casein Protein provides 50% of Calcium RDA - that is NOT a good thing !

by contrast the whey protein has much better calcium / magnesium balance and i buy a 5 pound tub every month.

our friend nostr:npub1vwwekj0nu9df5zeyax7nkpctptpny8y7294ls9kch5hrfwfmalmqf62jz8 thinks whey is a byproduct of cheese making - yes when it comes to money and taste. but when it comes to nutrition it is cheese that is the byproduct of whey protein making.

people like nostr:npub1acg6thl5psv62405rljzkj8spesceyfz2c32udakc2ak0dmvfeyse9p35c when they buy cheese are subsidizing my whey protein.

whey protein has a pretty good price / performance ratio because cheese is a drug ( casamorphins ) and there are more Cheese Junkies like nostr:npub1acg6thl5psv62405rljzkj8spesceyfz2c32udakc2ak0dmvfeyse9p35c who are after cheese than bodybuilders like me who are after whey protein.

i hope it stays that way - my grocery bills don't need to get any higher than they already are.

I buy and use 100% whey protein isolate. But I also eat cheese..

Btw "cheese is a by-product of whey creation" is a greater zinger, thanks for that 😆

Calcification of your arteries is a good thing. It stabilzes an atheroma making it safe. Without the calcification, atheromas put you at risk of a cardiac event or stroke or pulminary ebolism.

The presence of calcified arteries proves you have had atheromas (generally only atheromas calcify). Low CAC scores in old people prove they are the kind of person who probably doesn't develop atheromas at all... .and high CAC scores in young people proves they are developing them very rapidly. However, high CAC scores in old people and low CAC scores in young people don't tell us much. With CAC you can't see how many risky non-calcified atheromas exist, only proof that there used to be some.

I do think Americans are lead to consume too much Calcium, based on bad science around osteoperosis. Just get sunshine and exercise and don't worry about the calcium... either way.

Trying to avoid calcification of your arteries is like refusing to buy or use band-aids in order to prevent injuries.

i would maybe accept this argument if television wasn't pushing Calcium so hard.

experience teaches me to always do the opposite of what TV says i should do.

Americans take calcium for everything - Calcium for bones, Calcium for Acid Reflux, Calcium added to Orange Juice etc ... and that is on top of Cheese flavored everything

i didn't suggest avoiding Calcium - but merely to keep it in balance with Magensium

as for your points about stabilizing plaque - you might be right - but it is really besides the point.

the point is simply to consume the amount of calcium that nature intended - not more or less - and to balance it with magnesium intake.

Magnesium is the center atom of Chlorophyll, which is a molecule similar to Hemoglobin except Hemoglobin has iron at the center. Calcium is found in things like chalk.

We are supposed to be eating animals who are supposed to be eating grass, thus Chlorophyll and Magnesium ...

We are not supposed to be eating chalk and yet that is what Americans are doing - they are basically stuffing themselves with chalk - while completely ignoring magnesium.

frankly it is hard to look at mainstream medical advice and come to any conclusion other than they are deliberately trying to kill us.

Fruit and full of sugar and about as anti keto as you can get.

I don't mind "anti-keto". I cycle in and out as needed. I'm not dogmatic about it

Like those people that are vegetarians every Friday.

What do you mean?

Carnivore diet is the only truth!

Have you already tried the following concept?

Giving your body small amounts of carbs _most_ of the time. Not even keto, but just at most maybe 100 g of carbs (dry mass) per day.

But every few days or so having quite a bit of carbs (maybe half of total calories).

The idea is to not let your body think it needs to slow its metabolism because there's restrictions.