> STN starts talking about problems with bbllpckchain privacy, but somehow makes it all about Monero

These problems apply to other blockchain-based privacy systems too

The fact that other terrible systems also have these problems is no excuse for monero

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leave it.

transaction unlinkabiity is better using monero subaddresses with the monero gui wallet or whatever

than with Phoenix or muun or any sovereign node with just a channel or two

and that's #facts folks

Then how come I can trace my xmr transactions to you but you can't trace your xmr transactions to me? I'll even use Phoenix if it helps you

Oops, I meant "your LN transactions to me"

are you drunk?

that isn't what we are talking about.

YOU'RE saying because there's a possible *active attack* on a monero user that could be executed by a sophisticated adversary that could result in them linking two subaddresses together (OMG),

users should always send from a new wallet by default.

(which is bullshit)

and as if most LN users transactions aren't trivially linked together by their custodian or the one or two LSPs they have a channel with...

now you want to talk about knowing where the money goes?

well ok I guess

but you haven't said anything about your first FUD yet.

> which is bullshit

If "create an entirely new wallet for every tx" is bad advice then maybe submit a PR to withdraw that advice from the monero project's website

> most LN users transactions [are] trivially linked together by their custodian or the one or two LSPs they have a channel with

I acknowledge that most LN users are not using it in a privacy preserving way. Do you acknowledge that most monero users aren't?