Good point on survivorship bias. Since we can see that BSV continued operating and no node operators on BSV suffered any legal consequences as a result of illegal content hosted on their machines, we can safely move on to worrying about other threats.

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nobody cares about BSV

Nor is there any evidence of governments / prosecutors caring about illegal content in BTC. They only seem to care about financial flows.

oh

you're going to disintermediate the entrenched trillion dollar rent-seekers and theyre NOT going to use whatever leverage they possibly can to protect themselves?

good luck with that.

I can put illegal data on a bip-444 compliant chain. The irony is that generally it is the group of people obsessed with csam that have the hard drives full of it so I suspect we will see csam attacks from the knots crew is a post fork world and bitcoiners will likely ignore the withering lukecashjr coin.

Sounds like projection on your part.

Knots is responding to a threat we have already witnessed.

You know that Jeffery Epstein was backing core right?

All the way back in 2015.

Irrelevant. Knots is maintained and funded by a single person who also happens to be a statist Christian fascist.

When you say Epstein funded core you are being purposefully vague in hopes to some how taint Bitcoin. Epstein funded MIT media lab who was providing funds to a handful of core devs. This is the most retarded attempt at a gotcha from you weirdos yet.

"knots is maintained by one person which justifies forcing node runners to host childporn"

Of course you think it's irrelevant that all the normies learning about bitcoin from the Epstein files.

If one coretard actually had an argument that didn't lead back to "we should force node runners to host childporn" it'd be a lot easier to take you cunts seriously and have a good faith discussion but literally every time it always goes back to coretards trying to justify forcing this on node runners.

Not one of you have suggested anything or tried to explain how the filth will be prevented

Or how this is good for Bitcoin.

It's literally just a bunch of pedophiles and shitcoiners trying to justify spam and CP

The trillion dollar rent seekers as you call them were some of the first to get legal counseling on this issue. You're just ignorant.

https://x.com/BobMcElrath/status/1962512119078781164

cool

"some lawyers said its ok this one time"

clearly that means it could never ever be a problem

wtf is wrong with you man?

when did NOT thinking adversarialy become ok?

I dislike Kratter as much as the next guy but BSV surviving is NOT proof illegal content on the chain will not be an issue. maybe its just nobody cares about BSV...?

The onus is not on me to prove a negative.

The onus is on the fearmongers to prove their claims.

that logic isn’t assuring

How do you think the general public responds to articles like this?

How do I even talk to my friends and family about Bitcoin ?

I have had to explain this shit to people in real life that aren't interested in Bitcoin.

People who have no idea about any of it but heard something somewhere and worried about me getting arrested for running a node warning me it's dangerous.

You think that's going to help with mainstream adoption?

🀣

Don't we all agree that the law fair imposed on tornado cash developers and samurai developers is a travesty?

And it's that kind of power you're assuming won't be leveraged against CSAM on a node?

If software developers are at risk what makes you think that node runners aren't?

Running permissionless p2p software always has and always will come with risks.

Adjust your threat model accordingly.

garbage investor always come with risk

adjust your opinion model

Sure. One way of doing that is adjusting the permissionless p2p software to reduce the threat.

🀨 that doesn't make it ok.

People use tools to do things that aren't OK. Deal with it.

So you think that it's ok to misuse a tool because it's a tool?

Even if it hurts people?

One of the most commonly used weapons for murdering people is a hammer.

It's not OK to murder someone with a hammer.

It's still retarded to try to change hammers because some psychos use them to murder people.

From what I can understand, the people trying to change bitcoin are Bitcoin core developers who want to remove a filter that up until now has been preventing illegal content being uploaded.

Correct?

So who's the one trying to change the hammer? The person who says that killing people should be illegal and everyone should have access to hammers, or the person saying killing people should be legal but hammers should be banned.

That's how I understand it but I'm new to this whole thing, started learning about it yesterday.

I suggest listening to this for a synopsis of Core's position on the subject

Bitcoin Optech Podcast: Bitcoin Optech: Newsletter #373 Recap

Starting from: 00:28:28

Episode webpage: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/bitcoin-optech/episodes/Bitcoin-Optech-Newsletter-373-Recap-e38v9qe

Media file: https://anchor.fm/s/d9918154/podcast/play/109077774/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-9-1%2F408486171-44100-2-4df39d090aa21.m4a#t=1708

You understand incorrectly.

It has always been possible to inject illegal content, and illegal content has existed in the blockchain for a decade.

why is an op_return increase - which itself feels like a hammer change - necessary?

It's not necessary, it's an optimization and incentivize alignment improvement.

that said, depreciating datacarriersize is unnecessary and stupid

this is so obvious is reveals the glowing government agent behind the utterly uncharismatic and blisteringly awkward half-incarnate traitor and shitcoin grifter OP.

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fact or STFU

nobody asked your opinion

thought i was agreeing with you but ok...

also, all facts.

gfy

cool you can build Citrea on BSV then.

open up a PR to allow only the bytes you need at a consensus level, how many bytes is it anyway 100? everyone should be ok with this, the reason and use case is only your need at least for now.

Got to make sure that edge case is accounted for, correct?

Nobody cares about BSV.

Who runs a bsv node? I mean yeah, in countries where the police are actually resourced to deal with online childporn.

And fuck me you feel comfortable forcing other people to distribute childporn?