Would be cool to indicate how many of the people you follow also follow the profile you’re browsing. Could be a quick and dirty way to see if they are legit.
Maybe calculate some score or color code based on the ratio with tooltip info.
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If 90% of the people I follow also follow Will, chances are the Will with a good color code or badge or score is the legit Will.
You’d still have an issue if Jack impersonated Will, but the likelihood of those things would be pretty low with significant potential blowback.
Just be careful not to create social scoring...
All clients should implement a rename feature so that people can rename followings who they care about and this should be a private client config.
Is this realizable without good caching? It can be difficult just to see who is following you, not to speak of set theoretic operations on top of that.
Impersonation mirrors life. People are responsible for not getting scammed. The only harm comes if someone has a disorder where they distinct what’s true or someone preys on a child. Who moderates/what’s the flag indicator? Nostr is at odds with itself on this one.
Even passing as real for 10 seconds could mean significant reputation harm to the person being impersonated.
My Twitter account was hacked once due to my own fault but I lost many followers because the hacker spammed my followers while I was asleep.
It’s admirable that you’re reflecting on yesterday. Yes and no though. Someone’s reputation can’t take a meaningful hit when truth comes to light and in the digital space it can take all of the same 10 seconds.
I’m just affirming and reaffirming clearly now: Yesterday is gone and is fine. 💜
I don’t know what this has to do with yesterday. This is an ongoing problem until it’s fixed.
Ah cheers we’re changing lanes, okay 🕊️
You’re saying the problem is impersonation. Impersonation is not going to be fixed no matter what the gents and women do here. The best tech has is❗️indicators that are commonly used on Bluesky and older tech systems.
Even then, you’re really just taking about ego as proven by your comparison to impersonation and yourself. There’s too much self in all of this, it’s why people in fight on Nostr and the rest of us try to keep it light while you do.
Let it go (https://allpoetry.com/desiderata---words-for-life) or implement an already public solution rather than talking sbout it.
I believe there are distributed processed that would benefit from tapping into some sort of aggregated trustworthiness score. We cannot pass everything onto protocols, human feedback is needed for a verity of reasons and purposes. The question is, how can I (or a protocol) trust the feedback?
The 🐱is back 🤔 What’s the game being played?
Aggregated trustworthiness should definitely look at the network we trust as one of the metrics. Trust is expressed as a link established and maintained over time. So duration of the connections and maybe even frequency of contact could be another metric.
There is a overview in nostr band, download data somewhere in data nostr
I wonder if what #[2] is building could be leveraged in this scenario.
It’s something you’ll likely have data for client side anyway, as it’s similar to web of trust - so caching who your follower’s follow and running a membership check can be done locally.
It doesn’t protect against someone you trust changing their profile to impersonate - as they will likely already be followed by people you follow and have follower counts, etc.
Here was an idea I had to combat it
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It would be a good way to measure popularity/influence. It doesn’t mean they are legit. You can be an impersonator/scammer and have a lot of followers.
Lots of followers alone wouldn’t help. People you follow would also have to follow them. The odds of that are pretty low imo.
Lower, yes, but it’s not foolproof and could contribute to someone getting scammed if Damus starts advertising it as a quasi security feature. What if all your “friends” follow an impersonator account because they realize it’s satire and find it funny, but you you’re not in on the joke? However, it could be that I’m missing a key concept. I still don’t understand all the basics of the Nostr protocol.
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