Looks like Bluesky is getting a huge surge from Brazil blocking Twitter. Reports are 50% of their users joined in the last week.
There is something to be said for being a simple Twitter clone.
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Also poses the question why Bluesky is allowed and not Twitter.
Twitter wasn’t banned because it was Twitter it was banned because the company wasn’t following local laws. Were those laws legit? That’s another question. If Bluesky responds to legal and law enforcement requests it’ll be allowed.
I’m not saying it’s good to respond. In a past life I ran a network of websites which constantly was getting police attention, Indymedia.org, and we had the EFF represent us. We moved servers and domain name registration between countries on a regular basis to keep us from having to comply with government attempts at restricting speech.
Until ATproto works as an open network, Bluesky will be more like Twitter in terms of governance than Nostr which is more like BitTorrent.
Hopefully those trying to live their lives and run their businesses through socials can find the freedom they deserve.
Windows of acceptance shift and the everyday people become the pawns in the match.
Protocols for the win but we already know that. 🫂
Well said.
it actually did follow our laws by not obeying moraes who was himself breaking the laws. brazilian law expressly prohibits accounts' banning since 2016. brazilian law also does not require local representation if the company does not do business with local companies. brazilian law also forbids one company from assuming the obligations of another. and, above all, it forbids subpoenas to be made via social networks. Moraes didn't just tear up the laws, he tore up the constitution. I'm a lawyer, by the way ^^
if you get to translate it, this is our internet bill, the last bill sanctioned by then president dilma before the soft coup of 2016, which led moraes to power. he's screwing it article by article.
https://www.planalto.gov.br/ccivil_03/_ato2011-2014/2014/lei/l12965.htm
then again... if you get to translate it, I assure you, modesty aside, there's no better explanation than this one about the past eight/eleven years:
https://open.substack.com/pub/sutor/p/alexandre-o-mediocre-golpista-do
Do you think they actively picked bluesky over nostr, or they just didn't hear of us or what?
Potentially both? Some people I bring up Nostr and they immediately disregard it because "it's all about bitcoin" 😒
The it’s all bitcoin content is a major issue when I talk about nostr too. 😿
Let them know that with certain clients, they can mute words like Bitcoin, BTC, Crypto, Blockchain, hentai ...I've done that and my Nostr feed was still full of various content.
Same! To me it proved Nostr is full of other content
I only see content about nostr on nostr, never bitcoin
They actively picked but the President also had put up a list of socials. But when Bluesky was still in public beta it did have a huge Brazilian audience for a while. So it’s also many people returning back to their accounts
more likely they prefer that tire fire of gay homo porn and loli content and fucking pronouns
they can stay there, thanks
There are a lot of intelligent people on Bluesky who I respect a lot, e.g. str4d.xyz and filippo.io.
It’s not that Bluesky is “a shit platform”. It’s very decent for what people want in a social network.
Good to hear something else than radical Nostr tribalism. Indeed those people improved their communications heading to Bluesky, hope they improve them even more coming to Nostr.
Those people improved their communications by switching to Bluesky, hope they improve them even more by coming to Nostr. No need for resentful tribalism here.
Bluesky doesn’t stand for freedom of speech.
True story.
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there's basically one thing to be said about it, tbh: censorship lovers. those are the people threatening to leave twitter since day #1 after elon era, those who loved to complain about twitter on twitter. now, they finally have the heavy hands of law and censorship backing their choices up and they're happy to obey, all the way more when there's the good old moderation pre-elon style there -- aka... censorship.
Agreed but it’s also their choice right? People don’t go anywhere, be it online nor in person to have unpleasant experiences. That would be a crap life. People want to experience good experiences. There’s a cost for everything. What’s wonderful is there’s choice for everyone, those that like X how it is, those of us on Nostr and those that went to places like Bluesky & Mastodon. That’s better than cramming people with incompatible values in a space.
their choice insofar as they can be influenced. most of them are hating bluesky, in fact, and would have continued on twitter if they weren't a bunch of sheep.
in short: as soon as twitter is back to Moraes' grace, they'll all be back to twitter.
Well now we are discussing two different things and different sets of people. Those wanting censorship been left Twitter. The Brazilians that left only did so because of the recent government intervention thus of course they will go back to X once the ban is lifted
exactly. thus: no choice.
Everything is playing along as expected. Centralized institutions blocking access to centralized platforms. Nostr is here waiting for us all.
They've outsized Mastodon, when Mastodon is a better option
Of course, #Nostr is the best
There will be something to be said about NOSTR for being more than a twitter clone. The creative opportunities and freedom of NOSTR will allow something better to be born.
Twitter clone is the magic of Bluesky for the common users
I attribute BlueSky’s success to -
1. Reliable quote tweets
2. Most excellent mobile and web apps that looked so much good old Twitter
3. Engaged leadership team that took responsibility for the features and service.
2. Most excellent mobile and web apps that looked so much good old Twitter
Do they jump when Moraes asks?
or of being a media darling full of leftists
That is my primary use of Nostr. I’m pretty nontechnical. 🤷♂️