We sure do love zaps and the value for value economy here. Though, one of the largest user based technical hurdles for Nostr, IMO, are zaps. While not required, they do enhance the experience. Because of this paired with the fact that many of us are Bitcoiners, we tend to get a bit overenthusiastic when new users join. So, how do we make this easier?

Does Nutsack fix this? Maybe?

I'm still not entirely sold on Nutsack fixing this issue, at least in it's current form. Mint selection may need to be automatic or have recommended mints, but also allow advanced mint selection for more technical people. We also need incredibly easy solutions to convert from 🥜 to ⚡.

Telling people that they're going to need a second application or even a third application doesn't seem like a good experience either.

Would you be comfortable holding hundreds of thousands of sats in a Cashu mint? I would not. Because of this simple fact, I would not be able to recommend Nutsack to new users. I cannot recommend something to people that I don't use or don't fully endorse.

For me, the key is to help users help themselves and while helping them, don't set them up for failure. Don't set them up to be rugged.

I know that nostr:nprofile1qqs04xzt6ldm9qhs0ctw0t58kf4z57umjzmjg6jywu0seadwtqqc75sprfmhxue69uhhq7tjv9kkjepwve5kzar2v9nzucm0d5hsz9mhwden5te0wfjkccte9ec8y6tdv9kzumn9wshszynhwden5te0wp6hyurvv4cxzeewv4esdp32r9 is aware of all of these shortcomings and that he's actively working on making NIP-60 Cashu wallets better and easier to use.

Hell, maybe I'll dive in and switch my zaps to nuts for a while. Do a little bit of dogfooding. Er...squirrelfooding.

Anyways. All of that said, I truly am excited to watch clients integrate this and am hopeful that we can solve all of these onboarding issues. Maybe I'll be surprised.

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Appreciate your insights 🤘🏼

Cashu mints are a nice idea, but yes there's room for improvements when it comes to usability. Maybe it will get there eventually.

Currently I think the best solution for non-technical users, which is the average human you're going to onboard to Nostr, is a reliable custodial wallet like #Strike. Easy to set up, easy to use, and custody by a trustworthy, US-based company.

I love Strike. I use it. I see two small issues. 1) Strike is not available everywhere. 2) It's odd to tell people to use Nostr because it requires no KYC or registration, but then we tell them to use this cool Nostr feature that requires KYC and registration.

I get it. It's just a hard explanation that contradicts ourselves.

You tell them there are two options. A privacy-preserving one, and an easy one.

Seems reasonable. And in most cases, you probably already know who you're dealing with and you just tell them about one of the options.

I have family in the UK, and I keep begging them to set up Strike and Primal so we can stop going through the existing financial middle men. Eventually, they will.

Nutsacks and nutzaps do fix it and I agree about the mint selection happening automatically, kinda like we do with relay selection.

The critical aspect is educating users if their balance grows too much, particularly when it grows in a single mint.

Honeypot, the NIP-60 wallet I’ll be releasing soon shows you (as an example for advanced users) q visualization of the asset distribution

We should do a podcast or something to talk about this.

https://nostrcheck.me/media/fa984bd7dbb282f07e16e7ae87b26a2a7b9b90b7246a44771f0cf5ae58018f52/ad24152cdce7f98d2ed4338d69767a75de73721179399a3955d8555a88e069db.webp

Awesome. This is why you make the big zaps. You are one of the most intelligent and based people that I've ever met. Keep it up brother.

Haha thank you sir 😊

Podcast would be cool!

If balance > X,

auto-withdraw to lightning address Y.

I wanted to have that for npub cash forever, and it seems natural to me that we should have this feature for NIP-60 wallets and similar.

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The if balance > X { … } opens a lot of possibilities that would not be economical for most people as a starting point

The mint balance visualisation is cool!

How to switch to nutzaps? I want to switch to nutzaps.