Some thoughts in perspective, onlyzaps
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Gonna say it openly: #onlyzaps is dumb.
Client predifined #onlyzaps is dumber.
"My first impulse last Friday 21/04 when I received the latest Damus update was obviously to test it and give feedback, as far as I was able, to its developers.
I immediately realized that something was not quite in line with my principles, as soon as this option was activated you automatically affected the experience of other users by hiding the (controversial) like button without their consent and in a unilateral way."
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Tried it out for the weekend as it is a uniquely different direction for a social client. I like the idea of it insofar as it encourages interaction while removing the principle source of dopamine that makes social media addicting. At first when I started using nostr it was the case that some clients didnโt include either a like option or a zap function (maybe still?) so was kind of appreciating that tooโnot assuming uniformity across all clients. I do find your perspective interesting and helpful when thinking about the experience of all people present here
In any case, thanks for sharing this feedback for all to read.
Good feedback.
Only one thing, zaps are a stronger source of dopamine activation, so that's not fixed.
Only the entry barrier is raised and participation gets lower. And there's nothing to be fixed, that's how humans work, it's an adaptative feature not a bug. Let each one decide what it wants to do or can afford to do: hit repost, like or zap.
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Zaps are worse, I'm preparing another article where I develop it, but it has changed my opinion about it a lot. They are even dangerous
Just read your first write-up, looking forward to the second. Itโs a very important task not to fall into the old traps so thank you for expressing your concerns quickly. Experimentation is good, feedback, reflection, openness are essential. ๐ค
Woow thank you #[3]โ, so many interesting people I am meeting today. I hope to be up to the task in my next article.๐
๐๐๐ especially knowing where you came from on this argument
One of the thing that I love about Nostr is that there is no real consensus. Itโs a big creative soup in which the strongest ideas will survive.
I liked that it was rolled out in a provocative way. I loved that it sparked a debate. Disagreement, constructive debating in a civilized yet feisty way is essential to the fabric of our society, let them emotions flow a little, theyโre helpful, if respect reigns in the end.
Some devs decided to have a debate on one of my threads yesterday. Man i love this place
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What a good vibe you always inspire me, thank you #[2]
We vibe of each other, weโre just pure vibrating energy (from a purely scientific point of view). My vibe got stifled IRL surrounded by much toxicity. Made me feisty but always in search of what is good, and especially in search of what is true even if itโs ugly. If it gets to vibe in here a bit more truthfully I can only thank you for seeing it, to allow me to exist. ๐๐ซ๐
Woow #[2]โ, beautiful ๐ thanks to you. Because of people like you I have not given up, I have been on the verge of leaving and giving everything I have built to another free soul who would take care of it.
Hi! Donโt be so upset, ofcourse yo may but there is no need. Look at me, Iโm neither a developer nor a content creator. Iโm neither ultra funny nor a user that bunch of lads wants to follow. Iโm just fed up with Blue bird and Mastodon and searching for a fresh breath of air. And itโs because of you (and people like you) Iโm hanging around here. Apps and policies may evolve, they will find the way. In terms of Mandalorian this is the way. Cheers!
Hang in there. The only reason I'm here is the support I've received from others. And their thoughtful notes.
I have no idea what I'm doing. But there are some real class acts here mainting a firm support structure.
Been here almost a month. What a strange ride.
#followed
In full agreement with all of this.
Thank you #[2]โ, you were not on my radar, followed ๐
I appreciate your perspective, but letโs not get hyperbolic here. This is still a protocol, itโs decentralized, and you are free to use a different client or fork your own. No one is forcing you to use the #onlyZaps feature, and I should be able to choose to use it freely myself. For me, it cuts down on meaningless noise. If I โlikeโ someoneโs post, I either comment on it or send them a zap if they provided me some value. Likes are a vanity metric that provide little signal (or value) to the recipient, and is a lazy form of engagement for the giver.
And one more timeโฆ
โ optional
โ beta client
โ free to use a different client
Thank you #[2]โ, as I say in the article, I do not dispute the intentions, but the ways in which it was implemented.
I realised I didn't follow you, nice to meet you. ๐
