The battle to control YOUR speech in plain sight.
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I know this isn't the point of your note here, but Elon is an arrogant fuck. Maybe Twitter fails because of his policies, changes and his direction of the company. To blame advertisers is borderline insanity.
Right the free market is great until you get smacked by the invisible hand and then it’s cruel
FUCK YOU INVISIBLE HAND
Ridiculous statement.
Or he fails because users won’t pay for anything and there is no other source of revenue. I don’t think we’re above the issue he’s dealing with here on Nostr. I think we just haven’t faced it yet.
I hope we never have to blame advertisers for our failures.
If we have advertisers, then we have already failed.
What other options do you see to keep clients developing and relays at least operating?
People will have to pay for things they want. It’s strange to me how bitcoiners talk about incentives so often, but rarely do you hear people really drill down on what it would mean to incentivize sovereign software.
Still fighting the good fight kitty! We will get there!
Pay for what you use!
I only see hopium that everything will just work because good enthusiasts would implement best client software once for free that doesn’t require operational costs and design the network in the way that it only requires couple of thousands of very cheap relays (5-100$ a month) to operate relays which were already implanted. And in this way relay operational costs would be cover by the same enthusiasts running tor relays or lightning nodes
I don’t think its viable and I can’t imagine any system in social network (in terms of what a regular user expects from the term “social network” today) that doesn’t mostly exist off of ads
Do you expect every regular non technical user to pay some fee for using a social network? Like twitter is trying to achieve and fails?
I don’t expect it, no. That’s exactly the problem though.
I think back to Robin Williams line in Aladdin, “Haven’t you ever heard of the Golden Rule boy? He who has the gold makes the rules.”
Whoever ends up dumping money into Nostr, owns it.
So whats your expectations then? Doesn’t sound too positive, does it?
It’s not. But let’s be real for a minute. Nostr is a technological innovation. It’s a pretty decent one. I like it.
The problem isn’t technological though. It’s social. People got themselves where they are now. People will have to change. Giving a man trying to hammer in a screw a better hammer doesn’t solve his underlying issue.
Totally agree that nostr is a 90% a social challenge rather than technical.
And one way to solve it is for people to change their views and expectations on social networks
However, I personally think their is another solution - keep things as close as possible to what they are right now in order to avoid having to change people minds and just do what we have now but slightly better and a bit differently
I think changing people minds is impossible but making nostr look more like a standard social network is not a popular opinion here :)
We'll have them eventually. Thinking that zero clients will be ad supported is naive.
Oh I’m beyond positive they’ll exist. I would go as far as calling it a nearly immutable law at this point that people will *not* sustainably fund social good projects short of coercion, which I’m not willing to do.
I guess I’m calling out that we have the experience we deserve. If ads are a necessity, then we deserve every bit of corporate incentives and censorship we get.
Happily see it all fail.
What the holy hell did Elon smoke before going on stage?
Sorkin is a shill for his fiat puppet masters
The dead silence dotted with nervous chatter and quiet laughing in the audience is the sound of perceived realities being dismantled.
Yes. It is an incredibly game changing, frame change.. it’s akin to ”Look! The emperor is naked!”.
nostr:npub1h8nk2346qezka5cpm8jjh3yl5j88pf4ly2ptu7s6uu55wcfqy0wq36rpev this is what he meant to post
#Nostr fixes this.
#nostr is peer to peer communication protocol.
What a fake ass slimy lil chump this guy is. Bro, take the stick out of ur bum and laugh. Agree or not, like him or not, that was funny AF. Sorkin sits there like he is trying to be a real boy. we see you fake corporate speak chumps now. You act like weirdos. You cant hide anymore.
Elon Musk is a true HERO.
( nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m is not)
Courage is far more scarce than intelligence in this world. I respect Elon for raising the middle finger to the woke nonsense and corporate capture. And he's right IMO...the majority of earth is tired of the BS.
The #nostr is gfy speech.
The whole world will know.
The public is the judge.
nostr:npub1dergggklka99wwrs92yz8wdjs952h2ux2ha2ed598ngwu9w7a6fsh9xzpc nostr:npub1s5yq6wadwrxde4lhfs56gn64hwzuhnfa6r9mj476r5s4hkunzgzqrs6q7z & nostr:npub1qny3tkh0acurzla8x3zy4nhrjz5zd8l9sy9jys09umwng00manysew95gx panel for the 24hr frog talk next weekend ? 👀 check dms frens
Plot twist. Elon is intentionally tanking the bird to make an example of em and drive everyone to the new world protocol.
Classic: “And they’re gonna boycott Disney?”….They already are
Maybe Elon is secretly building on nostr and showing the world the advertising model is broken.
Escape the inflation trap and permit deflationary forces to allow a free speech platform to pay for itself.
lol we got free speech on nostr but everyone on nostr just talk about nostr and you know the other one