The ā€œcomplicated ways to adjust simple thingsā€ pisses me off so much.

Sometimes I think ā€œam I just becoming an angry old man?ā€ But then my car automatically hijacks my phone when I walk by it, taking over my calls, yet when I’m in the car and I want to switch from my phone to my wife’s phone, it is 4 levels deep in menus, takes 20 delayed taps, I wait 15 seconds for it to register, and half the time it doesn’t work for absolutely no fucking reason… then I know. I’m not an angry old man, car UX designers are simply full blown retards.

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The issue is "Car UX" shouldn't even be a thing.

A computer in a car does not make my life easier, it complicates it.

just having a physical button or knob is also ux

So true šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚

this is spot on, UX in legacy car companies is incredibly bad and the overall designs keep getting more and more similar to each other. new ideas require risk taking, which is unaffordable on a fiat standard.

Have you tried unplugging it and plugging it back in?

I believe AI will be able to smooth many of these pain points. Less tapping, more natural conversation.

A solution looking for a problem, why in the world would I converse with my car (which of course comes with a hornets nest of privacy issues) when a simple physical button works just fine.

This shit is a better use of AI than shoehorning it into a car.

https://m.youtube.com/@bannedvinyl/videos

I prefer older cars without the modern tech. But society is moving in this direction. You don’t think someone will make FOSS that you can override the OEM spyware? I run my own server, why can’t my car have a local, self-contained version of the same?

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I will welcome removing gulag tech from cars, and not hold my breath

Just because society is moving in that direction it doesn't mean you have to follow if you don't want to.

We hardly have FOSS software for phones and PCs (even with linux/bsd tons of the firmware/bios stuff is still closed), so having it for cars is not going to happen anytime soon.

But that's besides the point, which is: why does your car need an AI?

A: press/turn a mechanical button, that you can see and feel (without looking)

B: talk to an AI, which runs on top of a zillion lines of code, is susceptible to spying, bugs, hacks, noise, errors in voice recognition, etc

I’m not thinking in the short term, this is far out tech. If I had a profile and the AI knew my preferences - my seat position, mirrors, climate temp, radio station, map/route would all be set before I buckle my seatbelt. If AI self drive was statistically safer than human I would want that for my next 8-hour drive with the kiddos in the back.

As for the spying, bugs, hacks, errors - how is that any different from what we have now? You could create a hardened OS that could essentially run offline.

I’m not saying it should happen, but there’s a non-zero chance it could shift that way.

Most, if not all, of that stuff (seat, mirror, etc) can be done today, with no AI in your car, based on different keys/fobs for example.

The spying, hacks, etc is different, I'd like to see someone remotely hack a physical button/knob over wifi/bluetooth/etc.

You could create a lot of things, doesn't mean it's going to happen (wrt the hardened offline OS).

Car software today is already a mess of mostly duct taped together shit code that rarely get updates after a few years, since it's not profitable to do so.

you're an idiot

At least I’m not going around nostr reposting other people without any original thoughts.

I'm glad you're following me

Tesla wipers are peak needless complexity. Auto mode is shit and you need to hit tiny screen buttons to get access to the speed you need. Please bring back the stalk with s knob on it.

Make good enough great again 😊

I have yet to see an infotainment center that doesn't lag.

Also, I love how we got away from being able to use phones, but now they want us messing with a full ass tablet while driving! šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜œ

It's Bluetooth dude. We will be kardashev type 5 before Bluetooth works properly.

Wrt the walking by the car part: If you are using an Android phone there's some setting buried deep in the developer menu where you can set the max number of bluetooth devices it should connect to down to one.

It makes it a little less shitty, so that when you're on your headset it doesn't switch to the kitchen bluetooth speaker (for example) just because someone turned it on and your phone is within range.

If you're not using a headset, the only option afaik is to turn off bluetooth.

But yeah, most UX sucks šŸ«-balls

I have turned my phones cars bluetooth off in favor of pure USB-aux connection

Imo cars peaked in the 2000s.

But maybe I’m just retarded.

Or maybe - maybe the car industry is just gone fully retard in the last 20 years

My 1996 3 series BMW is still the finest car I've ever owned or driven.

According to a few ppl recently (including a BMW technician) 2015 is the cutoff for good, long lasting, low fault cars…

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KISS - they never learn this

Have to hide the deflationary impact of technology by ramming more tech into car to keep the price point! Just give me my VW polo from 1998 for £500 already please

Bluetooth and printers are anti-Darwin.

Embrace your grumpy old man.

Bitcoin raises your expectations of how things should be done.

probably both. We eventually become our grumpy parents lol

My dilemma:

Virtually all pre-ECU trucks (pre-1980s) use steel frames/bodies, which rust in humid climates without coatings or galvanization.

Aluminum or stainless steel trucks are rare before the 2000s, and modern aluminum trucks (e.g., 2015+ Ford F-150) have ECUs and complex electronics.