Imagine feeling guilty about some shit you didn’t even do.
Could never be me.
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Worse than that, we are often told to feel guilty for doing the right thing.
You just need to do the work to find your white guilt bro
As an Irish peasant I have none
The power of socialism!
You don't have to feel guilty about something you didn't do.
I'm not sure that is what most rational people are asking you (or anyone else) to do. Perhaps a fringe minority that gets a lot of airtime. Just like a lot of fringe right wingers get a lot of airtime.
I think the more rational take is to understand the systemic inequities that have been present in our society for centuries. You don't have to necessarily do anything about it or feel any way about it. Its just another fact of life that you can add into your mental models.
A kid growing up in the slums of mumbai simply has less opportunity than even a poor child growing up in the slums of london. That kid in london has had the advantage of a wealthy society that was partially built by looting that child in mumbais grandparents.
Again, that is just the harsh reality of the world today, nothing you and I have to do about it if we don't want to.
i think we understand the inequities… the contest is what to do about it
i'm not sure there is any contest. basically no politician with any real power has ever proposed doing anything about it.
i think its more of a culture war topics both the left and right folks in power enjoy throwing out there to divide the masses and create shouting matches. while they continue to loot and pillage a dying late stage empire
politicians have been pushing socialist policy for a while now😑 also, why would you bring this up if you were not trying to make a point in contrast to the OP? what is your point anyway?
there are perhaps 1-2 politicians in american who believe in actual capitalism, who do more than just give lip service to a balanced budget, living within our means, etc...
the republicans are about to pass a bill that will add anywhere between 3-5 trillion to the national debt.
all of these elected officials believe in socialism and in a rigged market, they just claim to rig it for different people (well some also claim to be free market capitalists). ultimately, either party inevitably rigs it for the rich benefactors that got them elected.
that is what happens in late stage empire crony capitalism
Here’s a response from Thomas sowell to you via ChatGPT. “The problem with this kind of reasoning is that it treats disparities as proof of injustice and systemic inequities as permanent explanations rather than challenges to be overcome. But disparities are not necessarily evidence of discrimination. They are often the result of cultural, geographic, educational, and behavioral differences. If outcomes alone are the metric, then success is forever unreachable for anyone born into disadvantage. That is a deeply fatalistic view with little room for human agency.
The example comparing a child in Mumbai to one in London assumes opportunity is a fixed quantity handed down by external forces. But history shows us that people from dire poverty, whether in Asia, Africa, or the Bronx, have dramatically changed their station by leveraging the tools they do have: family, discipline, education, community. These are not myths. They are the stories of immigrants, former slaves, and poor farmers who went from obscurity to prosperity in a single generation.
To say that you don’t have to do anything about it is cloaked moral indifference disguised as intellectual detachment. Worse, it subtly implies that nothing can be done because the system is too big, too unjust, too old. But that is a deeply corrosive idea. If belief in victimhood becomes your primary mental model, then your growth is already capped, not by the system but by your surrender to it.
As I’ve written elsewhere, the assumption that spending more money or passing more laws will produce better outcomes flies in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. What lifts people out of poverty isn’t abstract awareness of injustice. It is behavior, incentives, and opportunity. It is not a system that owes you. It is you who must adapt, strive, and rise.”
cool story bro?
i don't really have any response to your AI generated thoughts.
i don't think it addresses my point at all, but again, it is just a language model trying to respond by fitting something that has been said which is tangentially related, not a human that can form a thought
I'd also add, I never argued the child in mumbai doesn't still have to do everything he can to make himself a better life. That is the human experience for almost everyone, whether you were born in the ghetto of baltimore, the slums of mumbai, or with a silver spoon real estate mogul daddy in nyc.
i never argued you or i should do anything about it. simply that just like studying history, it is a fact that should be studied and thought about. many like to bury their head in the sand and pretend it isn't true. that is the only part i ever take issue with.
again, your llm can't understand the subtlety of what i said (well, it can't actually understand anything period), and simply regurgitates a response as if i said we must pay reparations because that is all it is capable of doing.
i think this is a good example of how copy/paste chat-gpt is going to dumb down the population by making people lazy, unable/unwilling to think for themselves, and yet believe they made some well researched solid argument
i say this with all due respect because you'll never know how much you helped me on my bitcoin journey and helped me stay the course through the bear markets
I gave you an automated response because even though I’m aware that your response was organic it may as well have been automated because it’s become the culturally normative response these days.
The truth is I owe nothing to the past and neither do you, but we both owe the future everything we can afford to give it.
Fair enough, I'd say if you felt my response was essentially automated and not worthy of a response, perhaps easier to just ignore it and not even waste your time.
From my perspective, it felt like I said "it is hot outside" and you (well, your llm) responded with "climate change isn't real, what is wrong with you" 😉
Slave mentality…ironically
now imagine ppl that try to shame ppl into feeling sorry about something they didn't do
that's the lowest of human trash on earth
It's easy to know it is ridiculous too, because you can flip it to whether you harbour any hatred for people of a given country, for things their ancestors did.
e.g. Zero hate for Germans for WW2, yet somehow I get the impression they hold the guilt.
Even my nan that lived through ( and narrowly escaped ) the blitz recognises the distinction between then and now. If anything she holds suspicion, but not hatred or blame.
It's nonsensical. The woke can suck it.
I can’t. I don’t feel guilt for the things I did do. So I can never imagine that.
Forgets to write down their seed. Regret.
This same sentiment is why I've always had a problem with the concept of "Original Sin"...