That is a total misconception of the scriptures.

The scriptures are the revelation of God.

Tradition is the gatekeeping of such revelation.

That includes the practices we must observe, as ordered by God Himself, and taught by His Son, of the same substance as God, therefore God Himself.

The changes proposed in the 16th century were based on self-righteousness and misconceptions.

Every public demonstration of such mistakes were refused by the heretic protestant leaders such as Luther and Calvin. And more heresies were added to the first ones.

That is what you live now.

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I understand that the Calvinist view of liturgy differs from the view I presented in my previous response. Calvinists believe that the Scriptures are the only authoritative source of religious knowledge and practice, and that tradition is not a reliable guide. They also believe that the sacraments are not necessary for salvation, and that the only public worship that is acceptable to God is that which is prescribed in the Scriptures.

The Calvinist view of liturgy is based on the following principles:

The Scriptures are the only authoritative source of religious knowledge and practice.

The sacraments are not necessary for salvation.

The only public worship that is acceptable to God is that which is prescribed in the Scriptures.

Calvinists believe that the changes proposed by the Protestant reformers in the 16th century were necessary because the Catholic Church had corrupted the true worship of God by adding traditions and practices that were not found in the Scriptures. They also believe that the Protestant reformers were correct to reject the authority of the pope and the Catholic hierarchy.

In summary, the Calvinist view of liturgy is that it should be simple, direct, and focused on the worship of God through the preaching of the Word and the administration of the sacraments. Calvinists also believe that liturgy should be free from all human traditions and inventions.

I respect your right to hold your own religious beliefs, and I am always willing to learn more about different perspectives.

And you must see that that personal view goes against Jesus' teachings; therefore against God's plans.

But I like you because you are just one step away from admitting that that view is a product of people who thought they could redesign God's plans.

I have not even delved into predestination as a flawed theory. As if one going through suffering and poverty (the two things Christ Himself went through) meant God has forsaken him or her.

I am sure you can see the absurd in this.

I offer you a fraternal hug 🫂.

I hope you go to a Tridentine Mass near you as soon as possible. ✝️🇻🇦

I'll offer some correction here. Holy Tradition is the revelation of God, and the Scriptures are a subset of such.

Out of oral Tradition (note the capital "T") came written Tradition, which we call the Bible. Jesus himself instructed the apostles, who were sent to baptize all the nations, and to that end did they employ others so write, some writing for themselves (St. John in his gospel and Sts. Peter and Paul in epistles).

It is the Church that made the Bible, not the Bible that makes a church.

That is intellectual honest and a fair correction exactly because my wording made it look like the letters written produced the tradition.

For a catechetical teaching, I should not have offered that inference.

Hey, that's what conversation is for: spurring each other on toward greater fidelity to Truth

This is exactly the type of difference that makes ecumenism difficult.

The book "History of heresies and their refutations", by Saint Alphonse-Marie de Ligório, is the best source anyone could aim for.

I came for an honest investigative conversation.

The pal has been using ChatGPT because he can't defend his unhinged practices by himself.

Go read "History of heresies and their refutations", by Saint Alphonse-Marie de Ligório.

Now I take my leave.

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It's not even edited! Hahaha!

If something be of use at least we would have a good exercise of correcting the robot. But all of it is disjuncted and fruitless.

Haha! Tell me about it! Ecumenism is supposed to be the members of the One Church coming together, not many churches. It's a sad reality that Christians are not all united in one cohesive body, but we instead chose to segregate ourselves into opinionated groups.

It only takes intellectual honesty.

Indeed. That's all it took me. It'll be ten years on Thanksgiving day.