These people are incapable of being reasonable.

If #bitcoin is going to win as free market money it will be adopted by governments and corporations, that was always very obvious. But these entities have no control over the money or its key properties and that’s why it’s so important in being a critical vector in changing their behaviors for the better over time.

Now shitcoiner’s try to use the fact that Bitcoin is winning the adoption battle as a “gotchya”. It’s pretty bizarre but at its root just existential cope from the losers.

The fact remains monero is and will continue to be completely irrelevant. I’ve never met anyone who has monero or wants monero or even knows what it is. Never heard it mentioned on time in the real world. There are a few monero trolls on #nostr but no vendors accept it or want it.

Xmr is economically inert excrement.

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This sure is nice fanfiction, too bad reality spits on it with disdain.

Sorry about your mental illnesses. Hope you can claw your way back to sanity at some point. It will be the fight of your life.

People willing to pay for a privacy service with a privacy koin. Wow I am impressed 😂😂

A small VPN service isn’t representative of economic activity. Cling to your delusions but monero is and will remain economically irrelevant.

deliberately ignoring coincards to go in with your retard babble, I see :^)

Dark web fentanyl dealers need to wash their filthy xmr somehow :)

I’ll let you know when someone mentions monero to me in the world. Might be a couple decades.

In the meantime, if you’d like to make a purchase from me, I am Bitcoin only.

Every arrest because of Monero has usually been because they were swapping out of Monero, and into Bitcoin and using custodial services to pay them.

This wouldn't happen if the people used KYC services but it's generally hard to put illicit gains back into the system, Bitcoin, Monero, or fiat, etc.

P2P markets for buying/selling Bitcoin/Monero I meant to say.

I’m talking about the use of monero on coincards. It’s just people who are washing their dirty money into something useable.

I don't see that as any different than Bitrefill.

Obviously Bitcoin, and Monero aren't as easily spendable in fiat land yet unfortunately.

The goal should be to make both as spendable as possible.

But even if we assume 100% become BTC only for crypto then monero would just use swapping services instead to spend.

I could spend Monero, and you get bitcoin, and you wouldn't know it unless you used an advanced AML system that tracks swapping services.

And let's assume if the global economy was 100% Bitcoinized then some malicious people would see others balances unless merchants used 3rd party custody, or advanced obfuscation methods like coinjoins, payjoins, or whirlpools, etc. But those who didn't would be attacked if they had large BTC amounts.

This would become common enough where people would begin to save in privacy assets instead to protect themselves.

Cool story

Thought this thread was over ha

These guys have nothing better to do haha

LLM style replies

nice circlejerk you two got going on

hit us up when you have some point to make besides "Bitcoin only, just because"

definitely not interested in being a customer after your behavior in this thread.

your attitude is exactly the same as a nocoiner circa 2016

"only druggies use Bitcoin, let me know when some legit service is taking it" 🙄

shitting on something, but not on the merits, just on association and propaganda.

cool cool

>only criminals use monero

>sells cannabis, which is still illegal at the federal level, while accepting blockstream coin for it

topkek

Fentanyl / meth / opioids ≠ cannabis but wouldn’t expect you to understand.

I really don’t care to tell others they can’t sell or consume any substance. But I personally would never respect or have any association with someone who sold drugs of death. I find them abhorrent as human beings.

Good thing I'm here to do all the judging then. Others shouldn't sell or consume fentanyl, meth, opioids, or cannabis. People should live an authentic life, and people should make their living producing something that doesn't have to interfere with people's internal signaling before it will appear valuable to anyone.

I don't give a shit about whether a drug harms someone's health and neither should anyone else. Fentanyl, meth, opiods, and cannabis would all be bad even if they didn't have any adverse long term health effects. The problem is the direct short term affects.

I said I don’t care to tell them what to do. I am judging them and said I don’t want to be around people who do that. But in the end, it’s everyone’s personal choice to decide.

Okay, so you judge meth users. So what? Do you judge people for using the cannabis you sell to them?

Not at all because cannabis at worst is harmless and at best, medicinal.

Meth, opioids and drugs like fentanyl destroy the human body and mind and make users dangerous. Cannabis doesn’t do that. If you can’t tell the difference then I don’t trust your judgement.

Monero people are truly retarded

Very special group. All 50 of them.

Do you really not get it? I don't give a shit about whether a drug destroys the human body or how people act while on the drug. Fentanyl, meth, and opiods would all be bad even if they didn't have any adverse long term effects on the human body or mind and even if people taking these drugs were perfectly well adjusted while under the influence.

Cannabis is an exogenous ligand thqt interferes with the human body's internal signaling mechanisms. Cannabis isn't sustainance and it bypasses human sensory organs to manipulate people from the inside. The effects that cannabis has on us are shallow, inauthentic, and meaningless.

Try me!

Thanks for your opinions.

It's my pleasure. I appreciate you sharing your beliefs as well. Just so nobody gets confused though, my beliefs aren't just opinions since I am willing and able to provide justification for them. I'm interested to hear if you have a response to my criticism of your cannabis selling, but if you are tired then I understand if you want to call it quits for now.

bro... cannabis is definitely harmful. it can be medicinal, too... but don't get it twisted. the whole argument that you can't kill somebody with THC could very well be accurate, but that doesn't mean it's harmless by any means. This is why you feel that giving your product to 5 year olds would be a bad idea.

i say this as somebody who uses it, and plenty of other substances.

I have monero and want monero. You probably don't hear about it because the monero bros are even more embarrassing than the bitcoin maxis, and no one wants to be associated with them. Both have merits and uses.

Yeah there are maybe a dozen people on Nostr who are monero enjoyers. But this a global platform for people interested in cryptography and freedom. It is a purpose-built protocol to attract that type of person and monero representation is still tiny.

Even on Nostr no successful vendors that I’m aware of want or accept monero. It’s totally irrelevant sans the 5 clowns who spend all of their finite time arguing about monero with bitcoiner’s on Nostr. Very pathetic way the xmr boys of Nostr spend their life.

In the actual world I’ve never heard a single person mention monero once. And I’ve heard many mentions of other shitcoins over the years. I personally know 3 people who have adopted bitcoin properly and use it as well.

...There are vendors on Nostr?

Bruv!! 👋🏼

nostr:npub1c74n52sngtmceu96gxms7lsfcdz3gqsfla9swcdgt7wc0qw684zqfe2cj2 doesn't sell ON nostr, but its a bitcoin-only company and is designed specifically for nostr users (and features many nostr authors)

And my boy nostr:nprofile1qqszdzu53dd2kjatpe2rpmjfu08lz9mkeuvrm7fmxg2el9nsa42pf9gpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgqgdwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkcqgkwaehxw309aex2mrp0yhxummnw3ezucnpdejq37ece9 advertizes a Bitcoin AND Monero service on Nostr.

But enough with all this pointless evidence. It doesn't matter who shills what on Nostr. Nostr should be a microblogging platform, not a cryptocurrency shilling platform.

there are like 5 maxi vendors in nostr.

but this guy wants to believe that represents something more than his little echo chamber

Found a reasonable monero guy! Why is being a bitcoin maxi a bad thing though?

I have zero issue with monero. I personally think it is a shitcoin and have no use for it but support everyone’s ability to utilize it

The problem as you stated are with the insufferable monero bros who constantly bash bitcoin and bitcoiners

bitcoin is completely overreliant on centralized lightning companies that obey the government, and lightning will never scale to the world in any other way. these companies absolutely do have control over the money and its key properties.

Let them try to change the 21m hard cap or restrict the ability for us to run nodes and audit supply/transact without having to rely on a third party

Until that actually happens nobody controls the money and you can continue to larp that bitcoin is failed and captured

>transact without having to rely on a third party

this is already restricted in the protocol because "muh decentralization" and every method of getting around it makes centralized lightning companies irrelevant, so they all scream "ossify" and nothing gets done. YOU can do it today because most people just use a centralized third party. if most people try to do it, it becomes unaffordable. this is completely on purpose

Lighting represents less than 1/4000th of the Bitcoin network. Lmao. Such over reliance.

Goatmeal, an npub dedicated to hating Bitcoin and its user base. Very sane and normal 😂

It’s all so tiresome…if these morons would just stay humble and stack sats they would be so much happier ha

Next level retards. Can’t argue with these 3 xmr boys and their 5 alt npubs anymore. I’m out 😂

Appreciate you! Need to hit you up this week but I would like price to hopefully recover a bit

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Monero is used more than Bitcoin (LN or onchain) at ANY vendor that accepts both. VASTLY more in most cases.

XMR mcap is 10x the Lightning network.

If Monero is economic shit, LN is so even more.

and I use all the above options.

Calm down bro

If Bitcoin is gonna win, it will end the era of the Mega-state and all it's state sponsored Monopolies funded via the money printer. If the current governments and fiat dependent corporations attempt to do anything with Bitcoin it will be for the sole purpose of usurping Bitcoin's goal as the fiat replacement.