Nostr Web Client

Imagine if Bitcoin had been around 30 years ago and companies were bringing out multisig inheritance planning solutions on 3.25 inch floppy disks. You had 3 floppies, in 3 separate locations.

You died, a couple of weeks ago and now your solicitor and executor are trying to work out what to do with these ancient relics.

I think paper and pen or metal plate inheritance planning is more future proof. But as a short term solution (say 5 years), easy multisigs hardware products are going to help the adoption of Bitcoin.

Reply to this note

Please Login to reply.

Discussion

𝕞𝕪𝕡𝕒𝕥𝕙𝕥𝕠𝕗𝕚𝕣𝕖 7mo ago 💬 1

I agree. What metal plate options do you like Mike? There are some interesting ones around now.

Low Information Voter 7mo ago

Copper FTW!

Commercially available etchants, and resists corrosion for centuries / millenia. And not too expensive.

𝕞𝕪𝕡𝕒𝕥𝕙𝕥𝕠𝕗𝕚𝕣𝕖 7mo ago

Any links to what you mean?

Low Information Voter 7mo ago

Regarding etching, any electronics hobby store should be able to sell you printable etch-resist transfer sheets, and ferric chloride etchant. You can get pure copper sheet at metal fabrication suppliers, or ebay.

Then you can use a computer to put your 12 words into a printable and possibly artistic / obscure design; print this on the transfer sheet, iron the transfer sheet onto the copper sheet, and dunk the sheet and etchant into a dish for ten minutes.

Beautiful, high-resolution result, and the copper sheet will last practically forever, even in the ground. Archeologists dig up well-preserved copper artifacts all the time after thousands of years.

https://www.instructables.com/Copper-Plate-Etching/

𝕞𝕪𝕡𝕒𝕥𝕙𝕥𝕠𝕗𝕚𝕣𝕖 7mo ago

Sounds pretty cool. Maybe BTC Sessions could give a tutorial. nostr:nprofile1qqspnzgrfett3asxcuj0gksje6z2zxzpvgd27uvz58m9vsuqh8zzw6cpr9mhxw309a382emdv9hzumt8w4ujumn9wsargwp58qq3vamnwvaz7tmzv46xztnwdaehgunfdshxxctdqydhwumn8ghj7en9v4j8xtnwdaehgu3wvfskuep0w3hku7gpewmsc

mike 7mo ago

I bought one, I haven't got round to using it yet.

Because I didn't buy it on Amazon, I can't find the order details 😂

Here is a photo instead

𝕞𝕪𝕡𝕒𝕥𝕙𝕥𝕠𝕗𝕚𝕣𝕖 7mo ago

Nice Mike, you look well prepared there. Do you prefer stamping or engraving?

mike 7mo ago

I haven't thought about it enough yet.

It's something I will probably look into seriously after the bullrun.

brisceaux 7mo ago

You can find videos on YouTube about how to stamp your seed phrase using stainless washers. It's a good cheaper option. Much more forgiving if you mess up a word too.

𝕞𝕪𝕡𝕒𝕥𝕙𝕥𝕠𝕗𝕚𝕣𝕖 7mo ago

I didn't use washers yet but interested to give it a go. Stamping isn't so easy as it looks though or fun

Marc 7mo ago

Stamping washers takes forever.the Cold Plate and punching tool from coinkite is worth the sats.

𝕞𝕪𝕡𝕒𝕥𝕙𝕥𝕠𝕗𝕚𝕣𝕖 7mo ago

Is it better than the cheaper kits on Amazon and worth the extra?

Marc 7mo ago

I haven't tried Amazon kits. I like the Cold Steel because you punch the first 4 letters of each word with a tool. It's fast.

If you ever need to destroy it, punching more letters is easier than grinding steel.

𝕞𝕪𝕡𝕒𝕥𝕙𝕥𝕠𝕗𝕚𝕣𝕖 7mo ago

Ah so you only need the first 4 letters of the password?

mike 7mo ago

Yes, there are 2,048 words and for each one, the first four letters are unique.

Also Border wallets are interesting nostr:npub1rxysxnjkhrmqd3ey73dp9n5y5yvyzcs64acc9g0k2epcpwwyya4spvhnp8 did a video on these.

vinney...axkl 7mo ago

https://jlopp.github.io/metal-bitcoin-storage-reviews/

mike 7mo ago

Do we like Jameson again now? 😂😂😂

vinney...axkl 7mo ago

I've always liked Jameson and still do. I don't love his behavior in op_return but I still like him and his work

metadavid 7mo ago

Never thought of it that way 🤔

casey 7mo ago

That’s why I stuck with stainless steel washers and letter punches

Galaxie 5000 7mo ago

And these companies are so new.