A lot of lists are also out of date. The first wave of projects is probably 90% dead, which can give the illusion that the whole space is too

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I know my personal repository of Nostr apps and tools is WAY out of date. 😂

I can't really compare the user engagement, since I have been here just for a few weeks now 😅 To me it feels fine, just this other side of it seems, like you said, somehow abandoned. But there are projects that get updated, just quite a lot of them really died off. Where I noticed it most is the relay options out there, I didn't find a really good user friendly guide out there on how to setup your own relay, how to manage it...etc By now I would expect more tutorials, maybe some gui tools for kicking out spammers from the relay, etc... It seems it got stuck at the level of only developers being able to run a real relay...

Check out bitvora for some recent development in the personal relay space. I don't know if they have tutorials, you're right that the user documentation is awful in general.

https://github.com/bitvora

The tutorials nostr:npub1utx00neqgqln72j22kej3ux7803c2k986henvvha4thuwfkper4s7r50e8 has in the readme for each of his Bitvora relays aren't too bad for someone who is a bit technically inclined.

We definitely need someone who can make some more approachable tutorials for some of these things, though... Like a Nostr version of nostr:npub1rxysxnjkhrmqd3ey73dp9n5y5yvyzcs64acc9g0k2epcpwwyya4spvhnp8, except that I prefer written format for tutorials, with screenshots and maybe some short clips for each step. Videos can be a pain to find there a section that you want to go back to started to watch it over again, while written format, you can just leave the section you need up on the screen.

I might be biased though. I write all the procedures for my department with my current employer using this format, and they are basically just tutorials by another name. They also take an incredible amount of time to do well, which is probably one of the major reasons why devs don't write them for their own projects. Their time is tied up building and squashing bugs.

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thanks @dikiaios!

@krisl

relay.tools has a lot of these features and the docs efforts have been primarily to be included in the interface itself as a guide to running a relay of any 'type' or settings.

if you want a free trial to check it out, create a relay and ill send first month ⚡back to you ⚡🌱