Wouldn’t it be difficult because you’d have bitcoiners join those relays anyway? They’d stared taking there and the normie relay will also turn into bitcoin relays.
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Relays need tools to defend themselves from unwanted pubkeys and content. There are real ways to do this but we haven’t done them yet.
AUTH works well but is the nuclear option. Softening auth via invite codes and access requests would help admins expand their member lists more easily
It’s not sufficient though, maybe you whitelist a pubkey based on a topic but they only write 5% of the time on that topic
And clients are not good at segregating content, so relays need more powerful tools than just AUTH imo.
It depends on if you want topic based or people based groups, but yeah
There are not enough bitcoiners in the world unfortunately.
There are multiple sub-communities in Nostr already that are living in non-Bitcoin bubbles -- there are some bitcoiners in these communities probably, but they're not talking about Bitcoin all the time there.
Why are we only discussing bitcoiners here? There is a dev “echo chamber” as well. Be more welcoming to normies. Stop taking about dev stuff.
Alright devs too. Point being is that you can’t really know who you’re letting into your relays. Conversation will unfold one way or another.
I don’t think we should be focusing on separating out new users via relays.
Instead we should focus on onboarding early adopters with different interests by building tools for their specific use case.
IMO, we missed a huge opportunity with the egirls. Would have been a perfect opportunity for devs to come together and create a censorship resistant OnlyFans for them. This would have brought in an entire new community, along with their customers.
We sure did. And I agree. We already have most of the tools needed for “friendlier” experiences. Almost there.
How about more e(nlightened) girls? Raise the frequency?
What e-girls? There is no such a thing as "devs coming together", that will never happen.
Come together.. right now … 🎶
We had an influx of online sex workers for a few weeks. Instead of getting their feedback and creating a censorship resistant version of OnlyFans that they could use, we got 10 more Twitter clones. And they left. I don’t give a shit if devs come together or not. But they should open their eyes and see how they can build tools for interested communities of users. This is another way to #grownostr beyond bitcoiners.
The idea is not to "separate" users, read my followup note.
if i'm a Nazi and you're a Jew i don't want to be on your relay any more than you want me to be on it. you just need to give me tools to find a more suitable relay. i suggest a chatGPT style AI interview when signing up that picks the first 5 relays for you, and then afterwards some kind of algorithm that picks relays for you based on your circle and communities you joined.
also each relay should clearly state whom it is intended to serve, for example "this relay is for pedophiles" ... after all, there are dozens of Fedi instances that are openly dedicated to Pedophiles so why shouldn't there be relays dedicated to it ... as well as Nazis etc ...
people naturally self-segregate they just need tools to know where they actually are. IRL no white person buys property in a black neighborhood because they can SEE the neighborhood is black. on NOSTR you can't see if everybody on your relay is a pedophile or Nazi. people need tools to see these things. as a Nazi Pedophile myself i would love to have such tools to find my frens !