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I’ve owned an electric vehicle for over 3 years and I live in a very cold country.

- after 3 years, battery has not degraded at all

- charges fine in -20 degrees

- all electricity here is hydro generated

- no restrictions on parking

- have had 0 issues. Best car I have owned

that's my experience as well. And for the battery, even if it's only 8 years, cost of replacement will be ok bc of improved recycling and fastly decreasing $/kwh

What's your thoughts on surveillance capacity and potential for remote locking? (thinking situations like the trucker protest for eg where govt went mad)

The remote locking stuff is fucked up, but has nothing to do with if the car is electric or fossil fueled. As long as there is a wifi connection it can be done.

that is about the signal. hacking the signal or shutting off/disabling the device blocking the car are two different things

A WiFi signal that is built in tho, which most fossil fuel vehicles don't have (yet) right?

Am aware California said all new vehicles being made starting in 2025 need to be able to be remotely locked/shut off, so fucked

I’m of the impression that most high end cars have this? But yeah, I’m the future it will apply to all.

Guess I will need to own an old gasoline guzzler to get around when my social credit score gets too low

girevik 2y ago

Can confirm my gas-powered car has this.

Don’t give EV apologists like myself ammunition! 😅

girevik 2y ago

There are good criticisms of EVs, but this is one is not EV-specific.

Agreed

I am learning things, did not know there were already fossil fuel powered vehicles with SIM cards.. what year did that start being a thing do you know?

What year is it? I am thinking imma just stay with older models, might need to do a zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance mission and learn to fix them myself!

good luck that it will stay this way

johnny 2y ago

Same here.. haters gonna hate

https://youtu.be/g6M1fAGR29w

why do you hate? get help

johnny 2y ago

I was referring to you friend…

JustWhatDrOrdrd 2y ago

Interesting feedback, thank you!

By chance I came across this video this morning, on the same topic.

Mega 2y ago

How’s the battery life and charge time?

Around 420km range. Full charge in 30 mins or so.

Mega 2y ago

That’s a lot better on the charge time than I expected. Can only hope there’s room for improvement from there.

Both battery capacity and charge speeds are improving fast so will only become better

https://twitter.com/search?q=electric%20cars%20not%20sustainable&src=typed_query

hope is not a good advisor.

electric cars are neither innovative nor sustainable:

Hope? I’m saying I’m superbly happy with the car after three years and have had zero issues with range or any technical problem.

I have understood that you have a problem with ev’s but it seems like you don’t have much experience owning one

nobody 2y ago

Agreed. Three years into EV ownership. Zero issues. Best car I’ve ever owned. Some people just can’t be convinced.

RJD 2y ago

The problem with EVs is not the cars themselves, they're great if you're doing short trips or city driving. The problem is that the distribution networks cannot support large numbers of EVs without suffering from voltage collapse.

The reason they're being pushed is that a flexible load is needed on the transmission network to absorb the intermittent renewables.

so you can only go 400km or less before you have to look for a charging station. as you know many charging stations do not allow charging any more. even if you find a charging station you wait 30 minutes for charging it? how inconvenient and stressful

Well, I’ve travelled my country far and wide, sometimes driving 800km a day, with zero issues. There are superchargers everywhere and whenever you add a destination outside your range it automatically includes a stop at a supercharger (that never requires a detour)

https://ibb.co/hCsNPwX

I'm doing very regular back and forth trips of 800km per leg. It takes me approx 60min more on a leg than when I was doing it with combustion engine. Combustion or EV, I stop max every 300km anyway just to get out of the car for a while.

Exactly. A break after 300km isn’t exactly what I would classify as inconvenient

Tell me if I'm wrong but your comments feel like you're pushing all the sparse negative things you've heard over the years about EV but don't actually use one for yourself to test your hypothesis.

miklu 2y ago

Prefer diesel power, secure and reliable up to 1100 km on 5 min charge , and I can take several jerrycans with fuel to refuel if needed . Energy security is important

It’s one of many variables that are important in a car. I wouldn’t buy a car based only on this. If the world continues to deteriorate I’ll get a diesel car for this reason though.

But diesel is perishable and in such a world I doubt the pumps will stay operational

Fiat Shenanigans 🤡🌎 2y ago

The diesel engine is one of the greatest inventions in history. It is a multi-fuel engine. It doesn't have to run on petroleum derived diesel fuel. It's your best bet for mobility in a worst case scenario like you're talking about.

same here. Even though I enjoy my EV, if things get worse, I'll get myself a combustion engine car that I'll keep safe just in case. And it's pretty sure I'll buy a rugged combustion 4x4 right before they prohibit sale in 2035 in EU. That is, if I still live in EU by then 🤡

At the speed things are moving, I think the whole clown climax moment will be well before 2035.

the great awakening is here

and people will not tolerate all those hoaxes to make some rich people richer

most of the world ignores this lunacy

combustion engines are cleaner and are the future

Machiavelli btc 2y ago

Haha funny. I have a 2013 model s with 155km on it. Still have 370km range, parked outdoors all year long in norway. Best car ever. Still rips new cars 0-60 and free supercharge. Only issue has been some suspension and AC.. also for some reason it eat breaks. But im averaging around 15k nok in maintanance a year not bad considering what i save on fuel and service etc. Gonna drive it until it falls apart or burns me alive

sorry to tell you that apart from your 3rd point (being shut off remotely), all other points are just not true.

This.

And the shut off remotely part applies equally to modern fossil cars

sethforbtc 2y ago

Not equally….

No? You don’t think a 2023 gasoline car can be remotely disabled?