I see some people saying, “it’s not gold going up, it’s the dollar going down” and things like that.

That’s not really the case, and there’s a simple test to see why.

When a currency crashes, it loses value relative to everything. Other currencies, real estate, stocks, precious metals, etc. Prices of normal goods and services skyrocket.

In this bull run, precious metals gained value vs other things. Gold vs oil. Gold vs stocks. Gold vs real estate. Silver vs oil, etc.

The dollar is rangebound vs other major currencies. The supply growth of the dollar this past year was 5%. It’s gold and other precious metals that went up vs everything. Partly based on fundamentals, and now seemingly due to momentum.

Now, where there is some truth to the statement: central banks in aggregate haven’t added to their holding of treasuries in ten years. The only foreign treasury purchases have been in the private sector, and at a rate lower than total US debt growth. But central banks have been buying gold. There is indeed a gradual shift toward neutral reserve assets afoot, ever since around 2009.

But that a very long process. That source of demand didn’t single-handedly drive the huge boom in precious metals over this past year. This was like a volleyball held under water and let go, soaring back up.

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So what you’re saying is to stack more sats?

USD gonna die and the CNY gonna take over.

Here’s the new boss same as the old….

Do not go gentle into that fiat night,

Old wealth should burn and trade at close of day;

Buy, buy before the dying of the dollar.

Though wise men at their end know cash is slight,

Because their savings forked no gains, they say,

Do not go gentle into that fiat night.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright

Their frail funds might have soared in Bitcoin bay,

Buy, buy before the dying of the dollar.

Wild men who caught and spent the fiat flight,

And learn, too late, inflation grieved their way,

Do not go gentle into that fiat night.

Grave men, near broke, who see with blinding sight

Blind banks could blaze like Bitcoin and be gay,

Buy, buy before the dying of the dollar.

And you, my holder, there on the HODL height,

Curse, bless me now with your fierce sats, I pray.

Do not go gentle into that fiat night.

Buy, buy before the dying of the dollar.

Yes but the massive paper to physical gold ratio, futures dominance, and centralized/opaque supply makes gold easily manipulable. Do you expect the trend to break soon?

How hard is it to sell gold? If the friction increases with price, is that a bubble indicator?

I’ve heard that silver bullion is only getting 70% (hear say, no details)

Good points

I don't know if what we're seeing is a short squeeze on precious metals due to a massive unwinding of paper derivatives... but this is what I imagine such a short squeeze would look like.

The dollar is stronger than it was for much of the last 50 years (apart from a big spike a few decades ago when the dollar was very strong). Gold and other PMs are going through a speculative mania like they have every couple of decades and some trading it make a lot of money. I predict it will burst again, just like it did the last time.

LOL, this post was only about a day too soon. When the Warsh announcement happened, PMs started cratering...

How do you explain the price of Gold ratio to the S&P… the S&P sets a new high while the comparison to Gold’s value is a 12 year low seems to imply the value of the dollar is going bye bye.

Meanwhile all these people invested in S&P are begging for corporations to control them… seems like they’re losing value and freedom.

How is this different to everyone saying bitcoin is not going up, dollar is going down?

Why call this out for gold but I rarely see it being called out for bitcoin? Is there a difference?

It’s wrong when they say it for bitcoin, too.

umm, bitcoin is going down.

FUD in the financial market, why, current leadership, threats and decisions reshaping ways to make money. So the traditionalist run to Gold, why, because its price is less volatile and they understand its simplicity as the turmoil settles and the future is predictable.

You identify the gradual shift since 2009. That is the mispricing.

Markets anticipate a linear decay of the Treasury standard. The reality is exponential.

When private sector liquidity joins Central Bank accumulation, the move isn't just a correction. It is a convex flight to safety.

What is the fair price of gold

I don't think you know what you're talking about

That move in DXY is nothing compared to the massive move in gold and precious metals. Precious metals are up vs everything, and by a massive magnitude.

Bull market in gold vs oil, gold vs houses, gold vs stocks, gold vs bitcoin, gold vs dollars, gold vs euro, gold vs yen, etc.

DXY is back down to the same level it was at during the 1990s when gold was like $300/oz. That just compares the dollar vs other fiat currencies, and it's like a 13% move this year vs 100% for gold and nearly 300% for silver.

DXY is just a basket of 6 different currencies mostly dominated by the Euro. So the DXY isn't really measuring anything, it's green apples vs yellow apples vs red apples and they are all rotten. The numbers on the screen are fake, they are not measuring anything anymore.

When the dollar is worthless and all other fiats are worthless the DXY will still be sitting at 100 on your screen like nothing is wrong.

All these currencies are devaluing at the same rate - some get ahead/behind each other at times. Especially after 2000 on that chart, the game really changed then. Now that most are up against -close to close enough to- the zero bound their game has ended.

Metals are finally moving for the same reason all commodities will eventually move, decaying fiat globally. It's just a mad grab for hard assets now since we're at the end of the interest rate/fiat game.

The money is so bad we cannot price an inert metal properly. The metals futures markets are permanently broken because they are not a hedge anymore, the fiat contracts do not represent the underlying hard asset. The contract is the same, and the metals are the same but the fiat is not the same.

The DXY is the only thing that says the fiat has not changed.

The metals now, then the softs. We're in for a prolonged bull market across all commodities. The hardest commodities are the most sensitive GC, SI, PL, HG then Oil and softs will really get in their bag late 26 early 27. Then when prices of everything *seriously* rise from commodity inflation people will scratch their heads and buy #bitcoin .

The pernicious part is that prices may rise but the real problem will be supply of goods. You're going to see on the screen gold costs 10k but there won't be an oz for sale anywhere. So it's going to be less costs of goods and more supply of goods. Things just won't be for sale.

I will point out that you can't really compare between the dollar and other currencies, because those currencies are also devalued at almost the same rate, so the valuation won't change very much between them. All fiat currencies are balloons that are inflating at almost the same rate. One might be inflating slightly faster than the other, etc., but they are all inflating.

At 5% a year, is her point

Why not both?

Did they let the ball go on purpose or did it slip out of their hands?

I think the same thing is happening to energy as we transition away from the petro dollar.

I wrote our my current model of how this plays out if you are interested. (Also my model of why this cycle was weak and why I don't think that will continue on trend.)

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So it’s a tulip bubble basically

How exactly is this any real versus engineered bull run?

Did they let go of the ball or did they run out of energy to keep the ball under water?

This distinction matters more than people realize. A currency crash reprices everything upward uniformly. What we're seeing is gold specifically gaining purchasing power against other real assets — oil, housing, equities. That's not a denominator problem, it's a numerator signal. The system is re-pricing gold's role as a reserve asset in real time. Half of central banks surveyed by Invesco plan to increase gold allocations. When institutions move this uniformly, it's not sentiment — it's structural repositioning.

That "volleyball held underwater" analogy is perfect. Do you think Bitcoin is currently lagging Gold because the market still treats it as "risk-on" liquidity, while Gold is bidding as pure "risk-off" safety?