I think bitcoiners make the mistake of “living outside the mainstream” and believe that the culture will ultimately come to them, because of necessity and inevitability. I think this is probably a mistake, and speaks of bubble mentality.

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(Not bubble in the financial sense. Bubble in the “living in a bubble” sense)

What's the upshot? Presumably you would say that we ought to "contend" in the culture war. Are there any examples you have in mind?

I don’t have a solution. But I can recognize the culture war is important, even if I don’t have a strategy for playing in that arena. 🤷‍♂️

I think some form of separation is likely. When, what and who I’m not sure but there appears to be a lot of irreconcilable differences

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I think you’re right. Most do and I’d probably include myself in that group (assuming bitcoin becomes as successful as we hope). Having online arguments isn’t productive and doesn’t do anything for your mood which can impact IRL relationships etc. You can still fight in the culture war by not succumbing to their dogma and loving by example

I just assume bitcoin is going to continue to grow and continue to become more important, and it may very well cross a threshold of becoming the most important financial asset in the world, for all the reasons people make about it. But I still think that, even if hyperbitcoinization doesn’t happen — and I think there’s real reasons to believe it may not — that doesn’t mean bitcoin will fail. Or won’t be a force to be reckoned with in the future.

I think there’s a lot of people in this conversation, who would become incredibly dejected and depressed if they came to doubt that was a certain outcome. I think that’s the kind of thing that breeds political radicalism, and has the potential to become disconnected from reality in dangerous ways. To those people, and the people they influence.

I don’t disagree with any of that. Other than opting out of clown world, what’s the best way to participate in the culture war?