Anyone close to the matter that could share some more insight?
https://developersalliance.org/open-source-liability-is-coming/
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one of the first voices talking about this was Uncle Bob, and he posts from time to time here on nostr, i unfollowed him because he posted pro israel propaganda
it is not possible to legitimately put liability on a party who did not gain consideration from a contract, which is precisely why one of the main thing that open source licenses have written on them is "No Warranty, Expressed or Implied"
this is just the beginning of the inevitable descent into hell for computer software development that is inevitable under authoritarian systems like the EU and US federal government
they will make it so it's illegal to write software without a licence and the cost of compliance will be so high that these regions allowing such nonsense will have a very poor tech industry
look at the history of the soviet union - the only part of the bloc that had some tech industry was Bulgaria, and practically half of the computers used in the block came from bulgarian engineers (as do also a great deal of the weapons and many other technologies).
the reason why bulgaria, in particular, had this is because bulgarians got really smart at hiding their ways of avoiding the turkish thieving of their wealth via so many mechanisms i could write a book on how bulgarian culture is based on evading violence
I would read that book.
i would probably never write it because it interested me only as an example of a pattern that i want to develop an engineering level understanding of in order to accelerate escape from tyrrany
I suspect the improbable rise of South America and others will at least partially be contributed to by this opportunity. The west will wrap itself tight in tyrannical comfort blanket and a new age will flourish elsewhere.
i'm definitely not going back to the Continent now i'm on this funny little island in the atlantic, it's going straight to hell up there, i don't think even the margins of baltic and balkans states are going to do very well for the time that this rot metastasizes into straight fascist cancer
the only places i consider to be reasonable now are everything east of the caspian sea and everything south of the mexican border with the usa, and islands
people who refuse to migrate when tyranny comes to town have nobody to blame but themselves for falling victim to it, imo, sorry not sorry, sucks to be anyone in dream land while it takes place but 3/4 of dreams are nightmares
Maybe they use some legal caveats in the future, like you have to compile for your own and the source won't run/compile until you change 1 line/ 1 letter of code. So to make the user (the compiling person) the final code creator, just "using other open source codes he found and included in his own code" or something like that.
Sounds like a really good way to centralize software more than it already is. Imagine having to compile something like an OS to avoid Microsoft, etc. Alas, this is what the EU does with this stuff. All they really do is screw consumers in the long term and strengthen the market shares of the companies they claim to be fighting. They are the only ones that can afford all the regulations.
Sounds more like using Gentoo Linux or slackware Linux... Where is the problem? Ok it's annoying to change a config for every program you compile, but on the other side you do it anyway often enough.
I mean, we are taking about mainly businesses here, the admin should do it with the blink of an eye.
I'm not interested in workarounds anymore. People either need to fight back or have fun going back to the dark ages.
I understand your point. I myself couldn't care less, it was just an idea what people concerned would probably do to not be punishable.
It's a bit like exporting PGP code from US in printed books and then scanning the code again to compile it, so to circumvent "weapon export regulations" -- I don't WANT this to be like that, but there are always ways to fuck them like this.
On a philosophical side not, requiring that a party prove they didn't do something is a bastardization of the concept of justice. The person suing should be the one to prove that they were damaged.
A law like this will kill the open source world very quickly. It is one thing to work for free, it is another thing if that free work can get you in trouble.
I won't be surprised
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Sounds like companies that use open source in their products will be held liable for bugs in the open source they chose to include in their products... and won't be able to pass the liability on to the open source developers.... instead of consumers taking all the risk. I'm of two minds on that, not sure what to think. But I predict lawyers will go after deep pockets. I don't think they will come after open source devs, even if they were paid in donations.
Time to start reading the code one uses?
Not everyone can, but far more people should IMHO. Just being 'open source' doesn't mean anybody actually read it and checked it was good code, didn't have backdoors, etc.
they will go after the money, but probably they will make a security theatre about arresting developers too, nothing beats a climate of fear to create submission
classic cult manipulation tactic to point at an enemy to blame for the harm that is really being caused by the ones doing the pointing
20% VAT on almost all transactions? anyone think about the harm that the EU's tax does to people?
and who wears the blame when they make wrong decisions?
This will incentivize an army of engineers and lawyers seeking ways to be "harmed" by open source software in order to sue
They beclown themselves...
Begging for no one at all to take them seriously they legislate against gravity and rotation of the earth.