I try primal occasionally and can never switch from Amethyst. I don't understand how a client with a caching server is so much slower to one without. Accessing the comments to a note has a noticeable lag, and I often notice comments on Amethyst that just aren't there on primal.

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Yes that's odd when you think about it. But I don't think about it any more and I just accept it. Nostr is slow. I'm also not in a rush when I sit down and scroll through the 50 new posts that came in over the last 24 hours.

Primal is also constantly losing its connection, whatever that means. Just now again. But, whatever. After all these years of overthinking and trying to make devs understand, I deliberately underthink now.

If it sucks, it sucks and I just won't use their thing anymore.

So much here is coded in the wind. All this vibe code nonsense only makes me wonder whether people have nothing to do with their lives. But, then again, just like Satoshi's most famous album: Nevermind.

hahaha, to be fair, i have that issue with yakihonne and amethyst as well.

I can't say the same, though they each do have their own quirks.

Yes, this is my primal experience 😂

YakiHonne much better.

It was much faster for me before v2 or whatever that big upgrade was called.

I also find images hosted on primal load more slowly than images hosted elsewhere FWIW. Maybe I have bad routes to their servers? All I know is it's slow.

its free vs paid user, probly

yeah same, that's why i've been switching between satellite and jumble lately.

That's really my main gripe, is the lag. It is where I'll go when something isn't rendering on Damus though. And I did notice superior performance on bad internet while traveling abroad a while ago.

I dumped Primal for Yakihonne today. Doesn't get any better or faster, speed will always be limited by the network itself

Maybe I'm just lucky to have fast Internet then. But the slowness remains with primal, comments take a few seconds to load, with a loading animation. Yakihonne is much better, a brief flash of a loading animation, less than a second. On Amethyst they are just there already when I click on a note, immediately ready for me to interact with.

Things like this matter. As load times increase, so does the bounce rate. Even a lag of 3 seconds will cause a lot of users to leave. It's why web developers spend so much time optimizing for it. It's why I cringe even I see people recommend primal for onboarding users, as it is a bad example of what Nostr can be.