I didn’t know that nostr:nprofile1qqsrpl96thl42ve0gsah63ypz75uunzpgfrd0g2x8nry4ggtef6crdgpzfmhxue69uhhqatjwpkx2urpvuhx2ucprfmhxue69uhkvun0vashg6r0dchxummnw3erztnrdaksu8h9p6 wasn’t posting here anymore. I’m not a techie. Just a freedom lover. It seems to me people could do both X and here.
nostr does seem anicdotally quieter, but, im also not on primal, or the big relays, or have worked to find new follows in a while.
so, the real answer is i dont know. what i do know is these charts dont include japan, dont include much of primal AND have been admittedly completely stuck (broken) for 4+ months at a time..
so promoting them as fact, it just annoys me. dont worry, its not just you, its everyone. the sheep sees a chart, they believe the chart.
how many more nostr users would there be if everyone saw a chart that is growing? would nostr:nprofile1qqsrpl96thl42ve0gsah63ypz75uunzpgfrd0g2x8nry4ggtef6crdgpzfmhxue69uhhqatjwpkx2urpvuhx2ucpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgqgawaehxw309ahx7um5wghx67t0wahxgctddehx7er99e3k7mgljk58c still be here for example? how many times has nostr:nprofile1qqsqfjg4mth7uwp307nng3z2em3ep2pxnljczzezg8j7dhf58ha7ejgprpmhxue69uhhqun9d45h2mfwwpexjmtpdshxuet5qyt8wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnswf5k6ctv9ehx2aqpr9mhxue69uhhxetwv35hgtnwdaekvmrpwfjjucm0d5klqft7 fawned over this chart like it means something. how many times has this chart been used to hurt nostr vs. help it?
nostr is decentralized, and while i admit nostr:nprofile1qqsrx4k7vxeev3unrn5ty9qt9w4cxlsgzrqw752mh6fduqjgqs9chhgpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtcpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhszyrhwden5te0dehhxarj9ekk7mf0mpwca6 has a good view of a lot of nostr, its not all and should not be treated that way. i wish he would just turn off the charts. are they still working nostr:nprofile1qqsrx4k7vxeev3unrn5ty9qt9w4cxlsgzrqw752mh6fduqjgqs9chhgpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtcpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhszyrhwden5te0dehhxarj9ekk7mf0mpwca6? did nostr flatline or is it just the metrics collection stuck again?
Discussion
He posted antivax crap here and was lambasted for his stupidity. That doesn't happen on Twitter because he can simply block anyone that calls out his bullshit. He can't do that here on nostr. On Twitter, he gets sycophants praising him for his insights. On nostr, he gets called out for being a dumbass and there's nothing he can do about it.
That's why him and others like him will never be on nostr.
If they can't silence everyone that calls them out for lying like they can on Twitter, they are never going to use nostr.
Free speech to these grifters is they get to say anything they want and everyone else has to STFU.
There are quite a few anti-vaxxers on Nostr. The undeniable reality is that Ian quickly got 1.2 million followers on X, gets tens of thousands of likes per post (reach), participates in a global discussion on X—like Snowden—and only got a couple hundred likes or less here. Nostr and censorship-resistant free speech is a beautiful thing, but it's still small and niche, with the best data we have showing only around 16-17k daily trusted users posting notes.
primal data suggests at least 100k monthly actives fwiw
Good to know, thank you. What does it show, daily?
10k
🫂 Hopefully, this data will help users to be more active and keep spreading the word.
A social network without followers or friends tends to be less appealing. Most people have their established networks and quickly lose interest in promoting their presence on new platforms. This is also evident with BlueSky, where many accounts remain inactive
BlueSky usage is trending down past couple months as well. Reddit is growing quite well.
So our numbers of 16k DAU and 42k WAU are close in line with Primal's 10k DAU and 100k MAU. Anecdotal data I remember from Amethyst and Damus is in line too. There's no magic behind these numbers, Nostr data is open. It is what it is.
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Thank you for confirming and for all you do to help grow Nostr. These numbers align with my understanding and the testing I've conducted over the years. Accurate data is important not only for measuring growth but also for assessing the overall health of the ecosystem.
Hmmm. Ok. Feels like they are all hiding somewhereor something. Lol.
90/9/1 rule
90 percent of Internet users lurk, not posting or interacting.
9 percent post and interact with others and creators.
1 percent are creators.
Do you think this ratio applies to small numbers?
I would hope we have many lurkers. That’s also good.
Hard to tell without better analytics, but that will get better. Take a note I posted earlier today for example.
4 comments, 19 reacts, 5 zaps for 147 sats.
Here are the analytics from nostr.build
It seems fair to say some people are lurking. I have 4000 follows on nostr.band, those numbers are obviously inflated. Npub.world reports 3000, which I still think is inflated. This image had ~600 views, and say 20-25 people interacted with it.
The pure fact that you can algo game other platforms to rapidly gain follows and hence monetise an account, while more decentralised platforms require nothing other than unadulterated hard work is most likely the cause.
The majority of people dont want to work on feed curation, that they outsource.
Effort = less users
it is very puzzling and difficult to understand why fact and science flies past some people, and to their own hazard.
I think this is the reality for most larger influencers/creators. Censorship resistant free speech is great but that isn’t interesting enough for them with a much smaller reach. I think right now Nostr is great for the smaller niche communities. With control over your feed and no algorithms it can allow these to be seen without being drowned out by the large accounts.
Vaccines are for faggots
He posted a video trying to explain why he thinks USA should invade and occupy Gaza..
I don't recall him posting anything about vaccines but I do remember that a lot of people were upset with the stupid promotion of trump Gaza retardation.
Actually that's the same reason he fell off on tiktok and isn't on rednote and his just a Twitter fag now and everyone keeps calling him a CIA asset used to create division online.
But yeah I honestly don't even remember him mentioning vaccines
Yeah Ian was here for like 2 days then never came back