That is true, but Jesus is more than a prophet. He is priest, prophet, and king.
He did come to deliver a message of repentance as a prophet, but he also came to offer himself as atonement for the sins of his people as their ultimate high priest, and rise from the dead conquering both his and our enemies to rule as king over all creation, to the joy of his people and fear for those outside of the covenant of God.
I disagree, everyone is responsible for their own sins.
Otherwise whats the point of even having sins and their punishments.
So you see yourself as a god? Who defines sin? You do according to your logic.
With an ungrounded worldview like that, I would live in the most hedonistic way possible and forgive myself everyday.
God defines sins. why would i see my self as god. of course i don''t.
When i say responsible, I mean, you have to pay the price of your sins, no one can say, ill take the punishment on your behalf.
I have never understood that. God defines the sins. Defines the punishment for that sin. Then defines a way to be forgiven for that sin but you have to follow his rules to do it. Seems like a rigged system from beginning to end.
Yeah, It would be really rigged if there is a way to have your sins "forgiven". God can chose to forgive, but he also has to be just. So if you sin. you will be punished. otherwise, whats the point?
That’s what I mean. God loves you but if you don’t do exactly what he says he will punish you forever and ever. Just doesn’t make sense to me.
I’m not trying to offend. I’m not a believer. If you haven’t noticed being told what to do is not high on my list.
It's not a punishment, it's living completely free from God, which was chosen by anyone of free will. However I don't like being told what to do either.
That is exactly why he gave us free will. He could have programmed us like NPC characters, but he didn’t. We disobeyed with the original sin the garden of Eden and brought sin into the world. Jesus made it right.
Loving all the chit chat about Jesus and Salvation. Only good can come from this.
I agree. I must have misunderstood you above
Either you will be held responsible for your own sins, or Jesus will say, "They have been paid in full."
God's standard is 100% perfection, so, the only way you can pay for your own sins is by somehow figuring out a way to be better than perfect.
God is just. if someone lies everyday, steals from others, rapes, kills, there is no "paid in full" my friend. Because other people walk through life being kind and try their best not to sin. Those people are not equal. We sinners pay the price in hell, once the price is paid, we can meet in heaven.
God can be forgiving and merciful, but he is also just.
This is true, which is why Paul says in Romans 6:1-4, "What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? 3 Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life."
When God forgives a sinner, it is not that he may go on sinning in a cavalier manner. It is so that he will be made new. The one who is forgiven much loves much. He does not presume upon God's grace.
You are absolutely right that God is both merciful AND just. Indeed, it is specifically BECAUSE he is both that he cannot wink at sin and forgive it without an atonement being made. Again from Romans, this time chapter 3, Paul wrote that Christ Jesus was put forward by God "as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith... so that he (God) might be just AND the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus."
You are also confusing hell with the Roman Catholic concept of purgatory. The first is a one way ticket, and the second does not exist. When you sin against an infinite God, a finite man has no means of serving time in hell long enough to pay his debt.
