The filters work perfectly at their main job: keeping spam out of your mempool

When widely adopted they also delay the propagation of spam-filled blocks, which provides a nice monetary incentive for miners to ignore spam: ignoring spam = fewer blocks orphaned = higher income

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there wouldn't be any delay when relaying via preferrential peering or private mempools. it only takes a few nodes to get around the thousands of knots nodes. come on.

Tell that to Mara Pool and CKPool. They noticed that their blocks were getting orphaned more often when they ignored the subsat tx filters, and reimplemented them. The higher the percentage of Knots runners, the higher the likelihood this plays out again, but for inscriptions and op_returns

I kept the receipts. CKPool post on the topic: https://x.com/ckpooldev/status/1957235824451559746

Mara Pool post on the topic: https://x.com/PortlandHODL/status/1958520763083825640

You said they "noticed their blocks were getting orphaned"

But neither of those two links said their blocks were getting orphaned. They just said they were taking steps to prevent the risk of orphaning

Good point, I missed that

these seem specifically about v0.1sat/vB transactions? I don't see how a large op_return that paid huge feeds is related to that.

My hope is that the same fear of stale blocks induces miners to not mine large op_return txs

To make that fear more grounded, I hope more people filter such txs

No idea. Have been mostly on stratum side of the house. But with slipstream, I imagine this would pose a similar risk so not sure why we ignore sub 1sat/vbyte.

i think its a lazy argument considering it only focuses on one type of non-standard tx

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Whack a mole!

You've gone from "trivial to route around" to preferential peering and private mempools. Keep it up and you'll eventually get to "I was wrong, filters do work".

If we spread Datum & encourage people to join Ocean or to create more pools like Ocean then the malicious Ant-main majority hold on mining will once again be broken.

Why facilitate spam instead & work to funnel more revenue to the same corrupt shits that have been trying to control bitcoin for a decade?

is the plan to censor inscription spends as well using this method?

it seems if this could be pulled off then bitcoin would no longer be censorship resistant, it would be whatever the miners agree upon censoring via relay policy?

Broad & blind rejection of certian transaction types is not censorship. No particular individual's transactions can be targeted.

It's really hard to take this seriously.