I am native American. My forefathers conquered, settled, and built this land.
Those that immigrated after and made themselves Americans, through generations of sweat and blood, are no longer immigrants, they are 2nd, 3rd, and 4th generation Americans.
Internationalism is dead. All non-citizens need to go work on their own homelands now.
I kind of agree. Internationalism is being used as a weapon. Immigrants are always needed, just not floods of them. Until America stops its hundreds of global military bases constantly provoking, taking and destroying others’ homelands, it won’t change.
I want nothing more than for the US military to stop being used as a tool of rhe ruling class and start being used to defend American interests at home.
I like your sentiment, but there’s such deep rooted corruption at the heart of our system we’ve allowed to exist. It’s generational to rebalance. Bitcoin does help
For what are immigrants ALWAYS needed?
Because people move
Are you saying that there is a natural net negative flux of people out of a given territory?
There’s always movement and a need to have more people. It’s just there’s been an agenda to flood for nefarious purposes
I don’t think you’ve made a strong case that immigration is needed, especially for a country as resource rich as America. That said you’re not advocating for mass immigration. I’m skeptical of claims that immigration is needed, similarly to economists saying inflation is needed. Migration is one of the tools used to suppress wages for the past 5 decades making inflation even more devastating to the middle class.
I’m not making a case, just commenting
I'm not a geneticist, but history has had natural immigration by various groups seeking saftey and or resources since forever.. maybe good for genetic diversity and for disease adaptation? immigration is not needed if one means state-funded busses or plane rides.
- "Wage Restraint"
- Bodyguarding elites, without getting onboarded into non-elite politics.
- Rent boys / girls for those with jaded tastes
- Visibly different scapegoats for a future season of "divide and rule"
Those seem to be historically universal for States
After how many generations does ones becomes "native" in some country or place?
If you wish to contest our claims then you must simply conquer America.
Just a point about language--'native' refers to place or origin or way or perhaps source of birth. Natal, Nativity, Nation... it can be a people or a place, though those things often go together.
For my part, I was born in Maine; so was my father, and so was his father, and so were two (or three) generations prior. I am native to this country.
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They were defeated and it was good that they were defeated.
They’re not native Americans anymore because they were defeated?
Their claims to the land were defeated. They are still the old tribal people of these lands. The old, defeated tribal people.
Isn't that self evident?
Not sure I get your point
Same.
If your forefathers conquered the land, then it’s their land now. But they’re not native of the land.
It became their native land, and it is now my native land.
Native = rightful.
The claim that we all have rightful ownership over lands we genetically possessed is baloney.
Property rights must be defended.
Read history.
I’m not denying that it’s your land now but that’s not what Native American means
I did actually 😂
Anyways enjoy your day
People use "native" like it means "original". And we keep finding evidence of earlier and earlier settlement of this land.. it is a moot point.. we are as native as they are, unless we pick some arbitrary and subjective time frame to call "original". That's not what native means. I think that's the point.
I’m 9th generation American. My 8x grandpa was a minute man in the revolutionary war. His descendent fought in the Alabama confederate army in the civil war. This is my dam land
