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yeah, unfortunately, nah

the witness marks (signs of the tools being used) resemble machine tools, especially varying sizes of disc saws. there is overcuts, on many of these that appear to have involved disks of several metres diameter based on the curvature of the witness marks.

the lifting of 100+ ton slabs of stone also doesn't have any explanation we can see, again, we don't have the technology to perform such a lift, although it is possible to lift lighter large rocks in the 10-50 ton bracket, it's just way too big to be practical, and how they transported it? well, presumably by boat but that's not the hard part, the hard part is a) lifting it and b) a boat that can displace that much weight

anyway, yeah, i do think that there was some stuff involving geopolymers, but the witness marks show machine tooling, especially on the non-cosmetic parts, of the sarcophagi and others, on the solid calcite blocks at... i forget the name of the place, i was just watching a documentary showing it. it all definitely is natural stone that has been machine cut. same with the vases, but the vases were carved with CNC style robots, by their geometry, and the precision and thickness of the walls of the vases would be impossible to replicate with even the most expensive modern machine, not to mention the ridiculous precision of the grinding.

of course there is probably plenty more mysterious signs of high tech yet to be found but there is no doubt, in my mind, that the dynastic egyptians inherited a lot of what we see in egypt now today, because what was made after those early artifacts, was not made with machine tools, but likely with copper and steel tools and maybe some of this natron stuff.

you just can't fake machining tool marks. also, the sarcophagi, the guy who wrote TAOY suspects that these were sensory deprivation tanks, of some sort, since after all no bodies were found in them.

Both could have been used at the same time. And its a lot easier to cut geopolymer before its fully hardened. Perhaps they cast the sarcophogi with geopolymer and then sawed the lids off before it cured, getting perfect single slabs that show machining marks, but solving the transportation problem because they transported a liquid or powder before mixing with water. That would be pretty similar to how we handle concrete now - mix the bags, mix in water, pour into frames, then poke holes for pipes and wires.

Still, not a perfect solution, I agree there. There's a giant rock in China that was moved a long way from its quarry, where it fits in. Natron could do the cutting, but not the moving. I mean, truly giant... Like a big building size.

yeah, that's what i mean. i'm sure they used geopolymers but they clearly cut natural stone of epic sizes. i doubt they could make geopolymers that look exactly like the stone that they already found remnants of in an old quarry somewhere, verifying the identity of the stone is quite easy with GCMS, chemical composition, isotopes, etc, easy fingerprinting.

anyhow, yeah, i'm pretty sure they had tech that is more advanced than what we have now to do this with. i mean, the evidence proves it. which also goes some way to supporting the story that they vacated the place and the nearby nomadic herder tribes moved in and the nephilim rulers established the dynasties. because there is no evidence that anyone has been on this planet since then making this stuff.

so, probably, if they could escape the gravity well, they also had the ability to lift massive stones, it's a similar physics problem - and IMO the solution is being able to nullify mass.

That's a good point - if they can escape the gravity well, they can move some heavy stuff, so one is basically evidence of the other.

Also supposedly a lot of rulers around the world had extended skulls. Even now... Sometimes I look at a celebrity and think, "your head looks kinda tall."

yeah, they are the descendents of the fallen angels, quite literally. the Wandering Stars mentioned in the book of Jude.

they are all in a conspiracy to maintain their power at all costs, and that cost is heinous.

What is the cost?

Couldn't it just be natural that a more intelligent animal outperforms the rest? And then add that they'd necessarily be networked with each other, since they're different and may need each other... Imagine the compounding effects of, say, a 1% advantage, over generations.

they get their power *through* the suffering they cause, and the effects are pervasive, and in all of it, is violence and moral decay. most of all, what they want is for everyone to be in the pit like them. they inflict it on their children, perpetuating the mindset of exploitation, and all the children, teens and adults that they abuse for their own amusement and power cravings.

they are also retarding the development of the species, destroying the education of young people, starving research and development that would increase productivity and the common wealth.

they are a disease, and hopefully the cure is coming soon.

Maybe. We see these effects, and where there's smoke there's fire, but the purpose of the fire isn't known to someone who only sees the smoke. Just speculation... But I have a phrase that I say to myself quite frequently : "all true blessings first appear as curses ; all curses appear as blessings." People always choose maximal corruption. I think that should be the foundation of economics - like a version of the utility curve.

I just don't know enough to ascertain their intentions. They could have bad intentions, but God uses them to harden people against evil. Or they could have good intentions but they and everyone else turn everything good into bad by way of their laziness or inconsiderate self interest - corruption. How incredibly good would you need to be to cause only good effects in the world? How incredibly evil would you need to be to cause only evil effects? The world pushes back, pulls things into a middle.

I'd like to befriend one or a few of them to find out what's really going on. I'm not planning on helping with anything horrible... I just can't judge without direct knowledge.

People always choosing maximum personal utility is a baked in assumption of economics, but I think it's a flawed perspective to assume a complete lack of altruism.

You could probably be friends with one if you wanted to. The gateway experience tapes teaches you how to make friends. Some of them like the click clicks can be unsettling though.

I don't think they have good or bad intentions necessarily. I think they aren't really thinking about us like that. Like a cat playing with a mouse is having fun and getting lunch, both net positive utility. That the mouse is tortured and killed probably doesn't cross its mind. Many people don't give a thought to the suffering of things down the predation ladder. I think we're probably in a similar situation with them. But no clue what really.

There is something tho. It's a constant line of commentary in psy-gym. There's a fight going on over top of us for us.

Over top in what way? Space? Or something here but invisible? Or just the governments?

Click clicks? Like bugs or crabs? Have you met any?

I think it makes sense that there would be a fight over us. Living planets are probably rare, and living planets with a sentient species already adapted to living on it is probably the rarest thing in the universe. Whatever is out there, the one thing I would rule out is it being uninterested in us.

I think over top of us like a different layer of reality, a different dimension that we can't reliably perceive with our mundane senses. Idk about if govts are aware or involved.

Yes I think the click clicks are like an insect consciousness. I hear them often when I'm sober right before I go to sleep, it's honestly a big part of why I like a lil bedtime smoke because it's easier to make things quiet. But that's me being avoidant. I recently learned I'm not the only one so that's been kind of cool 🤷‍♀️ but if you hear them too close they can poke at you and I don't like that. But apparently that's why there's lots of crossover with alien stories. They ones I've interacted with like better to be compared to fairies. I've "met" one but it's not like they come up to you and shake your hand in the 3D. But she's been a friend for me since I was a little girl. Sometimes I can feel her friends nearby too but I'm only close with one of them. In the GT program I was part of in elementary school they often had us guessing cards in our partner's hands and I was very good at it because my friend would tell me the answers.

I really liked this! Mostly I am curious about the costs of casting such stone myself. I love the idea of making a miniature Greek temple as a goat house or something that would be hilarious 😂

You could do that even without this stuff!

yeah, with high tech cutting gear lol.

there are witness marks on the large calcite slabs in the karnak temple, i think it was, that have diameters like this

here's some of the evidence of tool marks on the chapels of the Karnak Temple: https://youtu.be/gHIWfdLKtx4?t=1506

UnchartedX guy is not a conspiracy theorist. he actually goes out and looks at stuff and uses is knowledge of stoneworking to examine what he's seeing.

anyone could have noticed this stuff before, if they had any serious knowledge of the properties of various kinds of stones and how you cut them and move them.

the mainstream archaeology narrative is complete bunk. they could not have done it even with simple hand tools made from tempered steel, let alone copper. not to mention how tf they moved 100+ ton single pieces of stone that some statues and obelisks are made from.

the fact that the remnants of the tools no longer can be found doesn't have any relevance either, because metallic items are constantly recycled after they wear out and if not, rust into oxides that leave almost no trace of what they were, unless somehow by chance they got buried under a shitload of mud (like what happened to fossils) - only in those conditions can oxygen reactive materials remain excluded from oxygen, and the water level has to be even lower than you see with bones. peat bog mummies are one of the few kinds of "fossils" that exist that retain most of the carbonaceous material because they are buried under mud in water that has no oxygen in it. such conditions would preclude preserving metals because the water still will react with it.

there was people before the egyptians we know of, who left many things behind in egypt. TAOY says that they were the atlanteans, who relocated to the east side of africa before the disaster of 12000 years ago (which it doesn't say was a pole shift, but it was a pole shift). about 11000 years ago there was meteor strikes and airbursts though. these created a lot of the desert you see in the middle east and north africa, and several lakes in the americas were formed from impact craters. at the time, though the land was quite baked, there was still the Nile and its basin, the Tamanrasset river, used to exist and its source was the Atlas mountains and it ran down to the east towards the nile basin. this was how they moved their location, they were a seafaring, boat using civilization and they had VERY high technology. the account in Enoch of his flight across the world precisely corresponds to multiple locations between west africa and across through the middle east, india, and to what is now indonesia. it also clearly describes the Canary Islands as well.