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While I try not to advocate for violence I don't understand how people like this are still around and probably celebrated in certain circles. This leads to further the Brave New World Huxley wrote about

nobody 3mo ago 💬 1

i dont have a lot of experience in justification

as in: i havent done much reading, i dont have much lived experience here, im not familiar with the mechanics & philosophies of justification

so as an absolute n00b, im wondering aloud, does justifying one out of pocket thing tend to lead to many inevitable downstream justifications? like once the ball is rolling it is typically an avalanche? or is it more random than that? like someone is more likely to justify this one-off thing out of a sense of allegiance or that one thing over there in memory to a family member or just this one thing out of revenge? like what academic field looks at choicemaking over time?

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nobody 3mo ago 💬 1

taking crutchfield as an example:

one off things for a resume does not prove a true believer of a cause

can a true believer change their paradigm?

under what circumstances?

does anyone have book recommendations related or tangential?

Mot₿C Podcast 3mo ago

Yes, True Believer is a book that explores all this.

Published in 1951, it depicts a variety of arguments in terms of applied world history and social psychology to explain why mass movements arise to challenge the status quo.[1] Hoffer discusses the sense of individual identity and the holding to particular ideals that can lead to extremism and fanaticism among both leaders and followers.

The Bird 3mo ago 💬 3

Seems like a "it depends" kind of answer

nobody 3mo ago 💬 1

directed to me or what?

re: domestic terrorism or advocating for violence in some circumstances?

nobody 3mo ago 💬 2

1. im not in the business of reifying 'domestic terrorism' & the weaponization of that term so idk what to say to that i didnt even read the slaynews article in full cos idk slaynews, i search engined the name of one of the authors, read that fuck shit, & bounced off it

2. i do not, have not, will not advocate physical violence of any kind. during my very worst moments like when ive been a total fucking monster person, i have been emotionally violent thru words. i try not to be. i dont think thats ok to be. but yea i have been that but i dont advocate for that either.

nobody 3mo ago

^ answering in clarity out of generosity cos im not sure this was meant for me to even answer. multiple tags. ✌️but yea i dont advocate violence im fine to just suffer & die at the hands of these people. im not a policy person. im not a decision maker here. if its resist or die, i die im out

The Bird 3mo ago 💬 2

I don't think I can take your approach to be honest. Especially when it comes to my family.

nobody 3mo ago

i understand. my approaches are not meant to be taken. they are individual to my life circumstances.

where i am coming from, if this helps clarify: i prefer to not give anyone the power over me of making me into a murderer, which i fundamentally am not, even & including up to the cost of my life

if i had children i would die to protect them, otherwise, like very realistically, you are speaking to someone who moves ants outside with wet papertowel that isnt wet enough to drown them & allows them time to crawl off at their leisure. what am i gonna do but just die about it ya know?

like the whole thought experiment of time traveling to kill hitler as a baby

i answered that ages ago for myself & the answer is no, all babies are innocent even baby hitler

The Bird 3mo ago

Ahh yes, this is not me. I don't go out of my way to hurt things but I will when necessary

The Bird 3mo ago

"... does justifying one out of pocket thing tend to lead to many inevitable downstream justifications?"

I was just really addressing around this last blurb. I'm not advocating for either violence or these crazy people. It would seem the continued justifications snowballing or not being acceptable would be an it depends issue. I'm not looking at it from the philosophical or psychological type of standpoint you seem to be at depth.

I would assume it depends on people's tolerance for outcomes and their camps they fall in. Seems too many variables. So, it depends. That's all I'm saying. I should probably spend more time thinking about your overall ? Though. Hopefully these whack jobs don't gain traction but this seems to a Bill Gates type of ilk

The Bird 3mo ago

I think violence in defense of self or persons is acceptable. I value my life and that of my loved ones more than someone I don't know and still more than them.

This is one area I really fall short in as a Christian to be honest.