Apparently 50% of lawyers don’t pass the bar on the first attempt. Which is proof that we should have half as many lawyers as we currently do.

Maybe we could fix our overly litigious society by making the bar a one and done.

The last thing this country truly needs is another lawyer especially now that LLM’s can do everything a lawyer does.

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Or we have too many convoluted laws....

No

Just like cheaper scans at the hospital raised the need for them… lowering the price of getting legal advice will greatly expand the availability and help ALL KINDS of people navigate our litigious system

Make legal advice cheaper. More lawyers using AI tools.

Why would you want yo pay a loser lawyer who couldn’t even pass the bar their first time to use ai tools? I don’t understand

Who cares if someone fails a test?

A well-trained paralegal in a few years with AI tools may have the same ability as a modern lawyer. A modern lawyer with the tools, may be many times as productive. The STUDENTS may even learn faster… and we may have less bar failures.

That’s the goal. It makes every skilled human super-human.

Then, the cost comes down

Then, expensive things we need (like proper legal advice, medical scans, software, product designs, etc…) can be come affordable and help everyone.

And yes, make fewer laws as well.

Failing a test is no biggie my man

Nah just let people represent themselves. We have too much money flowing through the lawyer part of the economy every year, it should be less than 1% of a country's economy

Or making laws simpler and not a layered game of semantics

Nah, just abolish the bar and replace law societies with a public led ever of individuals Ws and Ls.

The free market will sort out losers very quickly

Public ledger

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What did you get served about?

lol nothing I just think we have too many lawyers

Same 🤝

I think the world would be a much better place with far fewer lawyers.

It is known.

Honestly I think one of the best things about AI it makes 99% of them obsolete.

I did my part

Great insight

Feels like LLMs will make us more litigious unfortunately

Very possible but it’ll be easier to defend as well

Exactly, imagine if everyone carried a fucking lawyer in there pocket

What if the laws were written so the average Joe could understand them? That’s a radical concept though

Why would you need lawyers if laws were simpler and just.

Legal system needs more principles and less paperwork. AI lawyers would make a shit pile of paperwork

The legal system is nothing but a criminal mafia racket, they can bend and make the rulings how they please depending on the people, place, situation of the case. Etc. It is a weapon of warfare

George Carlin said it best…”It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club…. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.”

Ditch the lawyers, pro se is the way.

Ditch the doctors (drug dealers) too.

Ditch the educators next.

Ditch the pastors, preachers and gurus.

And it goes without saying here to ditch the banks, right?

Wasn’t that Shakespeare’s step #1?

The problem with lawyers is that they beget more lawyers.

Plus, who’s going to write government/ regulatory policy?

Support and vote for a system based on MERIT. Vote for systems thinkers. Reject bs and ideological loyalists. Trust your gut. Read a lot. Be a good neighbor. Question everything and fart when safe to do so.

My daughter is going off to college soon. We planned ahead and she’ll have the funds to pay for it without loans. But I told her a law degree was one of the very few she’d have to finance herself as I refused to contribute to more lawyers in this world.

Hard to argue with that.

If half can’t pass on the first try and LLMs are getting sharper every month, maybe the system needs fewer gatekeepers, not more lawyers.

Efficiency > bureaucracy.

Are you still thinking AI will replace a huge amount of humans. Really sad

I don’t consider lawyers to be human no

Good luck then

They'll simply study harder before the first try. I've done it, and I massively over prepared. The study sacrifice is horrible: weekends, nights, no friends, etc. It really burns to realise the study could have been over earlier. In hindsight the right approach is to attempt as soon as there's a reasonable chance of a pass, then reattempt if necessary.

Litigious society isn't the lawyers fault, it's the law and courts allowing it. The classic example is the lady who sued McDonald's for burning herself with hot coffee and won. She should have been laughed out of the courtroom. These dumb ass cases should never be allowed.

Even though she became a 90’s late night punchline that’s a bad example. Her case was completely legitimate and had the correct outcome.

I had to look up the deets on that one, your right. But nevertheless, people sue for ridiculous stuff and get away with it. 22% of lawyers practice criminal law. The rest are corporate, an ambulance chasers and so on.

So soon people will not only be their own bank they will be their own lawyer.

When I was interning at a law firm during the last semester of my undergraduate degree, I was on the fence about doing a dual graduate degree in engineering and law for my JD

We were literally sitting in a court room and the opposing counsel looked at me and he was like “kid just be an engineer or just literally be anything else”

and that’s when I changed my mind about being a lawyer and I’m so f glad I did