Saying girls shouldn't use Nostr is like saying they shouldn't send e-mail, plug into electrical sockets, or ride public transportation.
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Well nobody should plug directly into electrical sockets, but other than that you’re entirely right.
people say that?
My feed is full of npubs complaining that women shouldn't use Nostr unless they are anon, and probably not even then because you have to like seeing gruesome or pornographic images, and receiving threats and stuff in your feed and your mentions, and women don't like that.
As if most men like that 🙄, but whatever.
They search for women on nostr, in this case 😁
Anyone who thinks what you've outlined is an insane person who has never met a woman in real life.
Or another guy for that matter.
Perpetual internet losers.
We actually have trouble getting men to use Nostr because they can get hit with so much garbage during onboarding. They're totally grossed out.
nostr:npub1manlnflyzyjhgh970t8mmngrdytcp3jrmaa66u846ggg7t20cgqqvyn9tn is right that we need sane-person-friendly onboarding options.
clients need to have a way to funnel people into a safe space by electing to during their setup to utilize a WoT based on a suggested follow list, or a collective filter ( this person has been flagged for shitty thing 5 times so is filtered out of safe mode), then users can peel away the protection ( and ofcourse go wild west from the get go). thats, Moro's thoughts...
Yes, that's what his project is about.
It's like with Google image search. The crawlers go over the whole Internet, suppress obvious kiddie porn and other horrendous stuff, and then add safe-search options for people who want to search for "Europe through the back door" and get Rick Steve's travel guide as the first result.
I distictly did not have that problem but I may have simply been fortunate there.
I also had the patience to curate away the garbage that I'm so used to seeing in "regular social media."
Either way, I see the problem that needs to be solved for sure.
A lot depends upon the client and relays that you start off with.
How did you get so much shit and idiots onto your feed? It bothers me that the women on nostr get so much shit from idiots who probably don't even know what a private key is.
Just smash that mute button and perhaps setup some lists with "normal" people. And if you need someone smacked, tag me.
Not sure what female npubs she is seeing on her feed but mine is nothing like this and I follow the majority of females on Nostr.
Some of the npubs harrassing Roya were also just really racist. Everyone pretends like that's not a thing on here, but they'd show up in her thread and be like "You are a filthy whore." and then I'd click on their profile and it looks like a KKK meeting.
Terrible
The Latest home feed of Primal is likely the main source of harrassers finding women. or any place where someone has visibility into more of Nostr.
When I am testing Nos people see the posts and respond even though I generated a key 5 min prior.
There are lots of experiments Nostr could try to resolve this issue:
- Turn off aggregator feeds like Latest for a few months
- Ask people to opt into aggregator feeds
- A variation is only make this post available to my followers, so it will not post on aggregator feeds
- Multiple women have asked for blocks which would prevent people you dont want to see your content from receiving it.
The argument “you should stand behind anything you post” falls apart when women post innocous content and they receive harassment. There’s an assumption behind that argument that Nostr exists in a cultural vacuum. However Nostr exists in a world with all sorts of toxic behaviors and those of us building it need to do a better job of not enabling the toxic behaviors within Nostr.
I’d also suggest removing Trending overall as it seems to be a reinforcing feedback mechanism “of free speech is the only speech and everyone else just needs to suck it up. “
Max Fisher wrote a book called The Chaos Machine which takes an indepth look at how Trending feeds reinforce tribal behavior.
Here’s a poorly taken screenshot from the book. Anyone who wants to better understand the mechanisms behind online harassment should read it. 
Edit - Primal’s default ordering of the home feed is:
Trending 24hr
Most Zapped 4h
Nostr Hightlights
Latest
Latest with replies
The last 2 are the feeds of people you follow. The other ones are aggregate feeds.
I understand this is a discovery mechanism for people new to Nostr however it has unintended consequences we should examine.
thanks for sharing your thoughts. I widely agree with everything you've said. I for one don't use any nostr client that has featured or trending posts.
Why don't girls be anon? The majority of nostr users are
You get engagement by being female. But there are two sides to that. Use the mute.
There are many/most uses cases that don't work effectively, if you stay completely anon.
Like finding other women to chat with and meet up with IRL. Not everyone exists solely on the Internet.
There are a lot of apps for that. Hashtags/groups can be used to for things like that.
I stay anon for a reason, you know. Because it's a neutral ground.
I want to read valuable info, content, not a 2nd Instagram or whatever.
That is your choice. Other people make other choices. You will have to learn to coexist with people who aren't posing as inanimate objects or hit the mute.
I agree with your problem of ineffective spam-filters / muting options atm.
New Year's Eve was a great example of the vulnerability to be spammed.
I have no problem with co-existing, but when someone exposes himself publicly, in a place without moderation or closed groups with admins and so on, then the person exactly that - exposed.
It's a free choice.
That's why I don't expose myself in such places
Sorry but are you still going on about this?
Maybe it’s time to ‘Bardot’ it…you know build a bridge and go over it.
I’ve been hearing about this for over 48 hours now and it’s getting quite tiresome.
And yes I am a female on nostr and this going on is deeming to some of the females on nostr.
I mean, women really shouldn't be using email.
But then again, neither should anyone else. We should get rid of the accursed technology once and for all.
🤣
Good point.
Nostr just needs some optional spam filters.
Everyone who wants to get those valuable invitations to the Scat Eaters Club and begging from Nigerian princes can continue to get them, but I can live without them, TBH.
Ñaw, that's only for the ones who left the bra on when they burned their bra!
Anyone can use Nostr, even those who think women shouldn't use Nostr. If you haven't figured it out yet, that's only your problem.
